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Absolutely true. But we would like you to obtain proof. Well actually, we would like anyone to obtain proof! How awesome that would be. Are you able to look for proof? (No bodies required!) I don't expect you to start paying for random DNA tests though.
...This thread and other BF threads go by the premise n this forum that BF do exist and we don't have to prove anything to anyone.
A premise should be open to healthy debate, and I inferred, from the title of this thread, that you are open to opinions on BF. Stating "we don't have to prove anything to anyone" only weakens the premise and closes debate.
My opposing opinion isn't an attack on you personally. I'm a scientist, and I follow the scientific method.
i have wanted to believe in bigfoot all my life (i'm 47) but I'm done. BF does NOT exist. If he/it/they did exist we would have some proof. I understand that creatures are discovered everday day but no one was searching for them and they weren't 8 feet tall. In order for BF to exist there would have to be literally thousands of them throughout the US (i know they are worldwide, but I'm just talking US) to support a healthy genepool. These things are supposed to be the size of grizzly bears and we have TEAMS of people constantly on the lookout, critter cams everywhere, thermo-imaging, tv shows dedicated to finding them and absolutely no amount of evidence...at all, nothing. Not a hair, a legitimate footprint, no bones, no teeth, no sign of any sort of dwelling...no one has hit one with a car, no hunter has shot one, there's not even any good cell phone video's of one.
They are not here.
i have wanted to believe in bigfoot all my life (i'm 47) but I'm done. BF does NOT exist. If he/it/they did exist we would have some proof. I understand that creatures are discovered everday day but no one was searching for them and they weren't 8 feet tall. In order for BF to exist there would have to be literally thousands of them throughout the US (i know they are worldwide, but I'm just talking US) to support a healthy genepool. These things are supposed to be the size of grizzly bears and we have TEAMS of people constantly on the lookout, critter cams everywhere, thermo-imaging, tv shows dedicated to finding them and absolutely no amount of evidence...at all, nothing. Not a hair, a legitimate footprint, no bones, no teeth, no sign of any sort of dwelling...no one has hit one with a car, no hunter has shot one, there's not even any good cell phone video's of one.
They are not here.
This. They wouldn't be so hard to find. I know people who used to spend summers camping in prime BF territory: the Trinity and Siskiyou forests of the far northern part of California. No hide nor hair, no sign at all, of BF.
My favorite is how Matt Moneymaker and lackeys are always SO CLOSE, but then they have to pack it up and go to the next town...
If I thought for a moment that I was really close to actually documenting a BF, I think I might set up camp for a few more days.
There ya go again. Watching those TV shows.
Matt M is just in this out to be his last name. When they go out on the trips they charge for then someone Always has an experience. Doesn't work that way for me or most anyone else.
This. They wouldn't be so hard to find. I know people who used to spend summers camping in prime BF territory: the Trinity and Siskiyou forests of the far northern part of California. No hide nor hair, no sign at all, of BF.
Ruth are you sure that someone stayed up all night every night they camped out? As slick as these creatures are ,they could walk right up and walk into camp while every is sleeping and no one would ever know.
Unless someone did; how can you say it didn't happen?
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I do have to admit that I experienced some very odd things that time I camped in the Shasta–Trinity National Forest in far northern California for a few months, as posted earlier. Not all of it with good explanations. And I looked at the Ketchum paper - it's not as shabby as the critics were saying, though Ketchum herself seems to be a shady character. There were many co-authors, and none of them has ever said they were told to cheat on the results.
Other than the concerns about her character, erratic behavior, and publicity methods the main criticisms were that she used a sequencing method that's not the best for avoiding contaminated results (though she did take steps to weed out compromised DNA), and that the mutant sequences didn't make sense in an evolutionary way, since long sequences apparently didn't even closely match any known primate.
To me, that brings up the totally daft and unscientific idea that they might be an engineered organism, apparently with a normal human female and an unknown and improbably mutated father back at the beginning.
I'm not saying it's aliens, but ............... it's aliens.
I do have to admit that I experienced some very odd things that time I camped in the Shasta–Trinity National Forest in far northern California for a few months, as posted earlier. Not all of it with good explanations. And I looked at the Ketchum paper - it's not as shabby as the critics were saying, though Ketchum herself seems to be a shady character. There were many co-authors, and none of them has ever said they were told to cheat on the results.
Other than the concerns about her character, erratic behavior, and publicity methods the main criticisms were that she used a sequencing method that's not the best for avoiding contaminated results (though she did take steps to weed out compromised DNA), and that the mutant sequences didn't make sense in an evolutionary way, since long sequences apparently didn't even closely match any known primate.
To me, that brings up the totally daft and unscientific idea that they might be an engineered organism, apparently with a normal human female and an unknown and improbably mutated father back at the beginning.
I'm not saying it's aliens, but ............... it's aliens.
I don't know enough on the subject to say no. I do know this and wonder.
1. Personally know one long time researcher that has had two experiences where everything electronic went dead for two hours. He has backed off research since this happened. He told me that this has happened also to several people he has researched with.
2. Seems that quite a few people in the past from Ohio claimed a UFO connection.
3. Suppose they are alien. Why stay out of sight and live pretty much in the outdoors?
4. They have been here for hundreds or thousands of years. What is their business here?
5. Some people have said that they(BF) have disappeared in front of them?(i have not tried to verify that)
6. Is there a Fourth or Alternate dimension or Parallel dimension?
7. Where do they go when there is snow cover on the ground? No tracks or very few tracks for weeks. Do they not move around and not eat? I have read in the past that track lines in the snow have just disappeared(not verified).
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Well actually, we would like anyone to obtain proof! How awesome that would be. Are you able to look for proof? (No bodies required!) I don't expect you to start paying for random DNA tests though.
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