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Old 01-01-2017, 04:07 PM
 
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Regardless of how evil people are and s*** everyone over, why do the biggest scumbags on earth gets all the wealth, money, love, power, and everything they want.



And good people get nothing.. Screwed over. No money to help others, no opportunities and in many cases a lifetime of misery. etc.
Karma is something that doesn't exist.

 
Old 01-01-2017, 04:20 PM
 
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The gods love certain people and hate others. Karma is a Hindu and Buddhist belief that actions in this life determine the species and situation of the spirit in the next life. How do you know what determines the good or evil of a person? Are you God or a god?
 
Old 01-01-2017, 04:22 PM
 
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The gods love certain people and hate others. Karma is a Hindu and Buddhist belief that actions in this life determine the species and situation of the spirit in the next life. How do you know what determines the good or evil of a person? Are you God or a god?
Murder, genocide, oppression of the people, lying to send your children to war, screwing your most loyal employees over to obtain wealth and save a buck, etc..


Theres a clear line between what separates good and evil
 
Old 01-01-2017, 04:42 PM
 
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There is no good or evil. They both sides of the same coin. Human simply does not know, what any act will turn out to be.
You gave some change to a beggar. You proud of yourself, you "did good". He went and bought some drugs and overdosed. Was it "good" or "bad" then?
Examples like this can be multiplied and multiplied. As we do not know. Especially, in BROAD, as in - historically broad - scheme of things.
There is opinion that as good or bad are basically same, difference is one's point of view, one's judgement of it, opinion is that for any amount of "good" or "bad" action, exactly the same amount of its opposite will happen, to balance. Otherwise, existence becomes unbalanced.
One simply does not notice or is aware of this.
Also, "karma" is not built by acts. Karma is built by thoughts. There is not single act a human may commit without a preceding thought about this act. There are even more "acts" that were never committed, but thought of. Those thoughts are released into reality and start circulating, until they are manifested, extemporized into an act, a behavior, a thought. An accident, for example. Which is not an "accident" as such then, but result of a thought exteriorization.
Thoughts are very powerful as they operate material world at its core - they can influence units of nature everything is built out of.
Karma is yet karma is not. By one's thinking, one creates a "train" of thoughts, following him through existences. They form one's destiny. Yet, at the same time, karma can be instantly disposed of, resolved. The very moment one becomes enlightened, aware, the bright Light of Consciousness burns away any karma one has accumulated.
Karma is not never ending chains of existences, samsaras. Karma is lack of inner Light. no, not lack of it - forgetfulness about it. That was never gone, it is always there. It was forgotten.

OP, why bother you about what others have? What they have comes with huge burden over them. Envy you feel will only burden you like they are.
 
Old 01-01-2017, 05:45 PM
 
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There is no good or evil. They both sides of the same coin. Human simply does not know, what any act will turn out to be.
You gave some change to a beggar. You proud of yourself, you "did good". He went and bought some drugs and overdosed. Was it "good" or "bad" then?
Examples like this can be multiplied and multiplied. As we do not know. Especially, in BROAD, as in - historically broad - scheme of things.
There is opinion that as good or bad are basically same, difference is one's point of view, one's judgement of it, opinion is that for any amount of "good" or "bad" action, exactly the same amount of its opposite will happen, to balance. Otherwise, existence becomes unbalanced.
One simply does not notice or is aware of this.
Also, "karma" is not built by acts. Karma is built by thoughts. There is not single act a human may commit without a preceding thought about this act. There are even more "acts" that were never committed, but thought of. Those thoughts are released into reality and start circulating, until they are manifested, extemporized into an act, a behavior, a thought. An accident, for example. Which is not an "accident" as such then, but result of a thought exteriorization.
Thoughts are very powerful as they operate material world at its core - they can influence units of nature everything is built out of.
Karma is yet karma is not. By one's thinking, one creates a "train" of thoughts, following him through existences. They form one's destiny. Yet, at the same time, karma can be instantly disposed of, resolved. The very moment one becomes enlightened, aware, the bright Light of Consciousness burns away any karma one has accumulated.
Karma is not never ending chains of existences, samsaras. Karma is lack of inner Light. no, not lack of it - forgetfulness about it. That was never gone, it is always there. It was forgotten.

OP, why bother you about what others have? What they have comes with huge burden over them. Envy you feel will only burden you like they are.


Ok so its all relative then.. We should do whatever we want and screw as many people over as we can to obtain what we want
 
Old 01-01-2017, 06:02 PM
 
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Regardless of how evil people are and s*** everyone over, why do the biggest scumbags on earth gets all the wealth, money, love, power, and everything they want.



And good people get nothing.. Screwed over. No money to help others, no opportunities and in many cases a lifetime of misery. etc.
Karma is something that doesn't exist.
Instant karma may not exist, or karma may not exist, or karma may exist, but work in a way we can't comprehend. But life isn't fair in the way we might like, like dividing up a sandwich so each person gets exactly half (or maybe the good person gets two thirds and the bad person only gets a third, IDK).

My own philosophy is that each of us has certain life path issues and certain challenges that we come into each lifetime to learn about. For some, they have come in to learn about poverty, or physical infirmity, or mental illness. For those who have seemingly perfect lives, they may have come into this lifetime to learn about what true friendship is when everyone wants something from you and you don't know who your real friends are.

I also personally believe that after several truly horrendous lifetimes where we are learning like crazy, we each get to have a lifetime that is easy, and this may be one of those for whoever you are talking about.

And you don't know whether those people actually get everything they want. I once worked briefly for an absolute scumbag of an attorney who was very wealthy and could go pretty much anywhere and do pretty much anything he wanted. He had a passel of equally scumbaggy "friends" and usually a thin, well cosmetically enhanced woman to accompany him (but never the same one for more than a month or two). This man was so alone, on Christmas Eve he tried to get his office staff to go out and see the holiday decorations with him--he had no one else to spend the day with. In an unguarded moment, he confessed that he was lonely and had no peace of mind.

And I don't for one moment believe that all good people get nothing. I know plenty of people who I think are good, and who live decent lives (not extraordinary lives, where TMZ camps on their doorstep and reports their every move, but fine, decent lives all the same), with loved ones around them, means to enjoy their lives, and decent health.
 
Old 01-01-2017, 06:53 PM
 
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Instant karma may not exist, or karma may not exist, or karma may exist, but work in a way we can't comprehend. But life isn't fair in the way we might like, like dividing up a sandwich so each person gets exactly half (or maybe the good person gets two thirds and the bad person only gets a third, IDK).

My own philosophy is that each of us has certain life path issues and certain challenges that we come into each lifetime to learn about. For some, they have come in to learn about poverty, or physical infirmity, or mental illness. For those who have seemingly perfect lives, they may have come into this lifetime to learn about what true friendship is when everyone wants something from you and you don't know who your real friends are.

I also personally believe that after several truly horrendous lifetimes where we are learning like crazy, we each get to have a lifetime that is easy, and this may be one of those for whoever you are talking about.

And you don't know whether those people actually get everything they want. I once worked briefly for an absolute scumbag of an attorney who was very wealthy and could go pretty much anywhere and do pretty much anything he wanted. He had a passel of equally scumbaggy "friends" and usually a thin, well cosmetically enhanced woman to accompany him (but never the same one for more than a month or two). This man was so alone, on Christmas Eve he tried to get his office staff to go out and see the holiday decorations with him--he had no one else to spend the day with. In an unguarded moment, he confessed that he was lonely and had no peace of mind.

And I don't for one moment believe that all good people get nothing. I know plenty of people who I think are good, and who live decent lives (not extraordinary lives, where TMZ camps on their doorstep and reports their every move, but fine, decent lives all the same), with loved ones around them, means to enjoy their lives, and decent health.

Generally, billionaires/millonaires can get whatever they want Generally if they ask for it and don't get it, ultimately they BUY it sooner or later.


Good people should get more than they have.. They would control their wealth better, distribute and help others (something rich people fail to do because they have CONTEMPT for people that have less than them), and if good people controlled business you wouldn't have such low employee morale or record high employee disengagement and high turnover
 
Old 01-01-2017, 06:59 PM
 
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I've known poor scumbags who have nothing and are still rotten to the core. You seem angry about people who have versus people who don't have, and maybe you're thinking that people who have don't deserve it, when a lot of times they've worked hard, and took chances and saw opportunity in the face of despair.


Do some people get things handed to them? Oh, yeah.... but that's part of life.
 
Old 01-01-2017, 06:59 PM
 
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I have often wondered the same thing. We don't know all the bad things that have happened to them over the course of their lives. It sure doesn't feel like justice prevails though.
 
Old 01-01-2017, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Regardless of how evil people are and s*** everyone over, why do the biggest scumbags on earth gets all the wealth, money, love, power, and everything they want.



And good people get nothing.. Screwed over. No money to help others, no opportunities and in many cases a lifetime of misery. etc.
Karma is something that doesn't exist.
It's actually pretty clear at my age..and also realize..greed, wealth is something no human can take with them when they die..If it garnered by scummy actions, bilking innocents out of their $$ or causing horrendous damages on business force into bankruptcy due to your actions.. The ones who inherit those funds inherit Funds from ill-gotten gains !

When Good people who GAIN by moral activities.. and put them to good use to benefit others.. I have no problem at all! It's when there's NO attempt to use your talents for GOOD ( other than yourself)..It becomes unsatisfactory in the eye's of " Fairness"

Fairness is a common word used by those who whine when they get called out on their actions.. But this same word does not seem to apply to fairness towards bilking innocents! Common sense should tell the righteousness instead get "Well too bad..people make bad decisions..so it's their fault" comments! That's a crock in my lowly opinion..BUT Judgement will come one day!

Dorian, IF you do NOT believe in Karma..that's on you. Enjoy your $$$ as it will not go with you..as you will appear naked when you come to final judgement, like it or not!! You may want to believe there's nothing beyond... But there is..so best of luck with your Utopian view ..
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