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Old 08-17-2017, 12:04 PM
 
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What was it? In my 35 years on this earth, I have never heard the sound. Nor has my uncle or my dad or any other person that lives there who has seen the video. I don't particularly know WHAT the sound was, but it was not something any of us have ever heard.
You created the video so I am sure you know. Anybody can create a sound and record it. Show me one time a video of bigfoot that is clear and irrefutable and I will consider the possibility. Even some fur or hair that can be tested for DNA.

But its always the same. Blurry videos or fake videos with people in costumes. Or staged footprints. With all the technology today and all the phones with excellent cameras the bigfoot videos are no better than they were in the 1970's.

Big red flag for me.
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Old 08-17-2017, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Huntsville
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You created the video so I am sure you know. Anybody can create a sound and record it. Show me one time a video of bigfoot that is clear and irrefutable and I will consider the possibility. Even some fur or hair that can be tested for DNA.

But its always the same. Blurry videos or fake videos with people in costumes. Or staged footprints. With all the technology today and all the phones with excellent cameras the bigfoot videos are no better than they were in the 1970's.

Big red flag for me.


I didn't create the video..... I live 400 miles from where the video was created.


And I fully expect people not to believe it. As I have said about twenty times in this thread... if it weren't for knowing my uncle I wouldn't believe it either. Especially not on the evidence available.


But... if you don't believe it I understand that. This post was made to share an experience and get some opinions from those who have had something similar so that I can try to piece things together. If this isn't you, feel free to move along.
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Old 08-17-2017, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Gray Court, SC
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Edit... Watched the video. It was a good effort, but.....


The buck that he showed the clip of didn't make remotely the same sound as the deer in the water. A buck has a very quick and forceful grunt. This sound was low and drawn out. Deer don't do that. (It was a doe, btw... they make a different sound than a buck) If the doe had made the sound, it would be a loud bleeting noise when in distress, not a low growl.
One snap of an alligator's jaws would have likely rendered the deer immobilized. Yet, my uncle said the deer walked away scared, but ok with no physical injuries seen.
Yes, there are alligators there.... that area has one of the highest populations of alligators in South Alabama. The creek is less than 1/2 mile off the river, so it's not unreasonable for an alligator to make its way up the creek. We've seen it before.


I will say I trust Tonys stuff more than MKs, but thats irrelevant in this discussion. My point is, given a situation, any situation, where the facts are not clear, and in this case all we have is a grainy video, anyone, including Tony and MK are going to find or see things to counter act the others views. We, meaning all of us on the earth, will see what we see and interpret it the way we see it. Its not a bad thing, or a good thing, its just the way we are. The video alone is more than any one else has shown here, believer or not. I strongly feel your uncle believes what he saw was a Bigfoot, and I sincerely hope it really was one. I also admire your trust and faith in your uncle, all of mine are scumbags!
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Old 08-17-2017, 12:44 PM
 
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I didn't create the video..... I live 400 miles from where the video was created.

And I fully expect people not to believe it. As I have said about twenty times in this thread... if it weren't for knowing my uncle I wouldn't believe it either. Especially not on the evidence available.

But... if you don't believe it I understand that. This post was made to share an experience and get some opinions from those who have had something similar so that I can try to piece things together. If this isn't you, feel free to move along.
I get it that it was your uncle who created the video. My bad. I am not saying you or your uncle are liars. But without something better than some noises and no clear video of this bigfoot its not a very convincing story. I think the guy with the other youtube video is correct. Its a gator that killed the deer. A gator would use the water as a tool to kill the deer, they have the advantage over land animals that way. It hides in the water, waits for the deer to approach and strikes. And you can see the snout of the gator in the video.

If there was a bigfoot how on earth would he catch a deer with his bare hands? Do bigfoots have shotguns? I have spent time in the woods all my life. You can't get that close to deer and they would be way faster than any 8 foot tall bigfoot.

If I did see bigfoot like your uncle claims. I would do whatever it took to video or photo it. It would be one of the biggest discoveries in history and probably be worth a fortune. If I could not get the camera to work. I would have a team with me scouring the whole area like you would do with a missing person and track it down. I would do it day and night until I found it.

But you all have not done that correct?
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Old 08-17-2017, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Heart of Dixie
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Okay, let me put forth a question that should be very obvious: Why didn't anyone return to the site and film the aftermath? If the struggle actually took place, it should abound in footprints and hair samples. At the very least, it should show evidence of the struggle that allegedly took place.
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Old 08-17-2017, 03:38 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Okay, let me put forth a question that should be very obvious: Why didn't anyone return to the site and film the aftermath? If the struggle actually took place, it should abound in footprints and hair samples. At the very least, it should show evidence of the struggle that allegedly took place.
As the OP said, it's on private property, and is maintained as some kind of remote hunting preserve. No trespassing. And the only person who knew about the incident was spooked out of his gourd. The OP said he wanted to go and examine the site and photograph, but his uncle wouldn't tell him where it was, in part because the property owner would pitch a fit if he knew anyone had been there.

It really helps to read the thread.
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Old 08-17-2017, 04:40 PM
 
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As the OP said, it's on private property, and is maintained as some kind of remote hunting preserve. No trespassing. And the only person who knew about the incident was spooked out of his gourd. The OP said he wanted to go and examine the site and photograph, but his uncle wouldn't tell him where it was, in part because the property owner would pitch a fit if he knew anyone had been there.

It really helps to read the thread.
You are telling me these hunters with very keen hunting dogs have never seen anything? But somehow this one guy did?

Well if all of these issues are obstacles not excuses there is a solution. I am a very proactive person. Not one that would sit around and say oh darn I guess we will never know.

Regardless I would not suggest wandering around private deer lease property without permission however everyone likes money. A 500 acre property goes for about $3,000 a year. You offer them $500 to search the area for a month off season. I don't know the property size but you go up or down with the numbers to make it work. If you have the funds you say I will pay the next two years of the lease just to be there for 6 months. Whatever it takes. Everyone has a price.

Either the leaseholder or the lessee whoever would make the decision on it. Easy to look up property records and find out who the property owner is. Its free money for them and you are not messing up the land. I can't imagine they would turn down something like this.

You get a paralegal or an attorney sympathetic with what you are doing to write up a contract. You want to have the rights to whatever you discover.

If it was me and I believed my relative I would be on this ASAP. The gains that could be made by getting real photos and evidence would be well worth it.

I am expecting a whole new set of excuses for why you won't even try to do my suggestion.

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Old 08-17-2017, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Heart of Dixie
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...It really helps to read the thread.
REALLY?????? That's your response????? This whole thing is just another trip down a silly rabbit hole.
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Old 08-17-2017, 10:18 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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REALLY?????? That's your response????? This whole thing is just another trip down a silly rabbit hole.
lol Well, you could have saved yourself an unnecessary post, and gone straight to your suggestions, which are fascinating. Another approach might be to ask people who have used the place for hunting, whether they ever saw anything unusual, or heard of anyone who did. But the OP says the uncle doesn't want to be responsible for triggering a sudden rush of curiosity-seekers, or illegal trespassers onto the property.

One thing that's unusual about the OP's narrative is that the video specialist reviewing the uncle's clips said he saw two of the Bigfoots, one being an adolescent. The available vids seem much too poor quality to show anything that could be discerned as that, even with enlargement, color-contrast work, and so forth.
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Old 08-18-2017, 05:53 AM
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You are telling me these hunters with very keen hunting dogs have never seen anything? But somehow this one guy did?
That's absolutely right, this one guy did.

Oh, by the way--he turned off his camera at a pivotal moment, it would appear.
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