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Old 08-31-2017, 03:15 PM
 
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I am fascinated by unsolved mysteries of a paranormal (or even historical) nature such as Jack the Ripper, the Amelia Earhart, Anna Andersen (the Anastasia Romanov impostor), Roswell, etc. However in doing some casual research of many of the most well-known ghost or ESP stories, I cannot find any that have NOT been debunked -- or at least seriously questioned. (Usually because they are just hearsay, with no verifiable evidence that they actually happened.)

Does anyone know of any documented paranormal mystery that no expert has been able to prove is untrue -- or, in other words, does anyone know of any story that, so far as you know, no expert has been able to explain?
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Old 08-31-2017, 03:57 PM
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There are a lot of UFO sightings (~30%) that fall into the unexplained category. The experts check aeronautical and NOAA records and rule out planes and weather balloons, analyze the photos and rule out photoshopping, interview a dozen witnesses +/- polygraphs and rule out deception or mass hysteria, look at astronomical charts and rule out the planet Venus, and so on, and then they're left with "unexplained." It doesn't mean the object was an alien spacecraft or time traveler, just that they can't find any alternative explanation.
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Old 08-31-2017, 09:00 PM
 
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I am fascinated by unsolved mysteries of a paranormal (or even historical) nature such as Jack the Ripper, the Amelia Earhart, Anna Andersen (the Anastasia Romanov impostor), Roswell, etc. However in doing some casual research of many of the most well-known ghost or ESP stories, I cannot find any that have NOT been debunked -- or at least seriously questioned. (Usually because they are just hearsay, with no verifiable evidence that they actually happened.)

Does anyone know of any documented paranormal mystery that no expert has been able to prove is untrue -- or, in other words, does anyone know of any story that, so far as you know, no expert has been able to explain?
It is hard to prove a negative that is why these things keep going on. The bigger question is what has been an unsolved mystery that has been proven and accepted as true by the general public and science?
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Old 08-31-2017, 11:28 PM
 
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There are some rather extreme examples of synchronicity that skeptics are not able to debunk to my satisfaction. The default and rather stuffy response is "well, coincidences are bound to happen" but some are just too insane for that boilerplate explanation to hold water.

Another that immediately comes to mind are the scientific studies of twins who were separated at birth who go on to lead bizarrely similar lives.
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Old 09-01-2017, 03:18 AM
 
Location: Planet Woof
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Spontaneous human combustion comes to my mind.
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Old 09-01-2017, 03:47 AM
 
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Btw, don't forget the research Patricia Cornwall, best-selling crime writer, did solving who Jack the Ripper was. (Famous for using all her own money...)

What is that ''humming'' all about? Coast to Coast would be a good source for this kind if stuff.
That 'twin thing' is a good one, Bluefox.

Where's Jimmy Hoffa's body?
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Old 09-01-2017, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Crook County, Illinois
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It'd be haunted places for me. I don't believe in ghosts, but I do believe this: when a severe tragedy happens somewhere; it "imprints" on that specific place. Which sometimes, although not always, causes weird things to happen there in the future.

There's one place like that near me: Munger Road in Bartlett, IL (west suburb of Chicago). According to the story, a school bus once stalled on railroad tracks, and couldn't move. It got hit by a fast-moving train, killing everyone inside. Today, if you stop your car on those tracks and put it in neutral, you'll feel it slowly move off the tracks. And if you sprinkle talcum powder on your rear bumper, you'll sometimes see child-sized handprints afterwards. Allegedly, it's the spirits of the kids in the school bus pushing you to safety.
This is the site: https://goo.gl/maps/dYEUegW2q2K2.

I never tried it, because there's no way I'm stopping my car on train tracks, but just saying.
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Old 09-01-2017, 08:39 AM
 
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Daniel Dunglas Home - A medium who lived during the 19th Century
and who levitated during presentations.

The Cheltenham Haunting - An apparition of a woman appeared to a family
who lived in a house in a rural area of England. The ghost made several
appearances over a rather short period of time and the haunting has the
distinction of being one of the first cases of the newly formed Society
of Psychical Research.
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Old 09-01-2017, 09:57 AM
 
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It'd be haunted places for me. I don't believe in ghosts, but I do believe this: when a severe tragedy happens somewhere; it "imprints" on that specific place. Which sometimes, although not always, causes weird things to happen there in the future.

There's one place like that near me: Munger Road in Bartlett, IL (west suburb of Chicago). According to the story, a school bus once stalled on railroad tracks, and couldn't move. It got hit by a fast-moving train, killing everyone inside. Today, if you stop your car on those tracks and put it in neutral, you'll feel it slowly move off the tracks. And if you sprinkle talcum powder on your rear bumper, you'll sometimes see child-sized handprints afterwards. Allegedly, it's the spirits of the kids in the school bus pushing you to safety.
This is the site: https://goo.gl/maps/dYEUegW2q2K2.

I never tried it, because there's no way I'm stopping my car on train tracks, but just saying.
Actually, there are a lot of those, and the Ghost Adventurers debunked them. Essentially, given the surrounding landscape you appear to roll up hill. In reality, there is a down slope to the road, and your car rolls with it.

They proved it with a ball, and then with a surveyor...

Here's the other thing....there's no evidence of a school bus accident. That would be in the newspapers probably everywhere. My evidence for that? The small town where my dad grew up, and met my mom was nearly burned down from a Christmas tree fire in 1949. You can google Hyndman PA Christmas tree fire. It was even on the cover of Life magazine! It was also just in the news from a massive train derailment and evacuation.

One other point, there are tons of "gravity hills" where this phenomena takes place. At every single one where there are train tracks, "the legend says" (very key words denoting this never really happened) there was a school bus....
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Old 09-01-2017, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Crook County, Illinois
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Actually, there are a lot of those, and the Ghost Adventurers debunked them. Essentially, given the surrounding landscape you appear to roll up hill. In reality, there is a down slope to the road, and your car rolls with it.

They proved it with a ball, and then with a surveyor...

Here's the other thing....there's no evidence of a school bus accident. That would be in the newspapers probably everywhere. My evidence for that? The small town where my dad grew up, and met my mom was nearly burned down from a Christmas tree fire in 1949. You can google Hyndman PA Christmas tree fire. It was even on the cover of Life magazine! It was also just in the news from a massive train derailment and evacuation.

One other point, there are tons of "gravity hills" where this phenomena takes place. At every single one where there are train tracks, "the legend says" (very key words denoting this never really happened) there was a school bus....
You might be right, and what you're saying makes sense. But I like the legend, at least. In a blatantly suburban area like Bartlett, it's nice to have a bit of historic mystery.
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