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Old 04-14-2008, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Earth Wanderer, longing for the stars.
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most people believe it is God. But It seems it could be a combination of God and extraterrestrial intervention. The Bible speaks of this in the Book of Genesis. This throws the theory of evolution out the window. I think the fact that they havent found "the missing link" proves that man did not evolve from ape. We seem to picture God as being a white man with long white hair sitting on a throne but God may be entirely different than we realize. The Bible says "Let Us Make Man in Our Image". Notice the word "OUR". Clearly man was created and altered by intellegent being(s). Besides the equation you presented, just look at how complex the human body is, or any life on earth for that matter. There is no way it happened accidently or randomly. There is just too much complex natural order.
Perhaps ape genes were used, though.

The biblical angels - didn't they have offspring with humans?
If so, they would probably be the humanlike aliens which seem awfully like the Greek god legends, don't they?
Perhaps the greys, or some other form of alien created the Nordic types as well as us humans, so there is a natural link between us.

Maybe Lucifer's(an angel) rebellion in trying to give man the knowledge of good and evil was an attempt by these beings, who were genetically related to us, to raise us higher than animals, and that is where the concepts of free will vs. instinct/predestination came into play.

I really found your idea of Marilyn Monroe and Kennedy interesting. I knew her house was bugged, but we are never told by who. Also, she had a diary or notebook which supposedly contained the secret info was missing when they found her.

Columist Dorothy Kilgallen also had some secret about the Kennedy assassinatin and was murdered the night before she was to break her story, with the folder containing those documents missing.

I often think when there is sure evidence of a conspiracy that the conspirers, along with some attempt to cover up, will also plant a story that will seem plausible to the segments of the public who do not buy the coverup.
An alien connection has not been thought of. We have the mafia, Russians, Cubans, CIA - but not some coverup involving aliens. Well, there is not a lot of information, but I think this alien coverup by the government must go deeper than the idea that people will be disillusioned concerning their concept of god. That would give them an altruistic motivation and I don't think our government operates that way.
It could be that the aliens just don't care about us. We are just another form of animal life and our thoughts and feelings have little value. So, yeah, knowing that might cause trouble. They(greys) certainly treat us in that manner. The other reason seems to be that free energy would drastically change our society, our business interests are in keeping the status quo.
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Old 04-14-2008, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Downtown Greensboro, NC
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check out this. This documentary has several parts on Youtube and it talks about the Sumerian creation story which predates the Bible. Its very similar to the Bible story but in Sumerians text its the annunaki that created man. Annuinaki means "those who came from the heavens"

part 1

YouTube - UFO ALIEN -Sumarian Origins of Humans Part 1

part2

YouTube - UFO ALIEN -Sumarian Origins of Humans Part 2

part3

YouTube - UFO ALIEN - Sumarian Origins of Humans Part 3
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Old 04-14-2008, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Downtown Greensboro, NC
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This is interesting too

part 1


YouTube - Falcon Lake UFO 1-2

part 2


YouTube - Falcon Lake UFO 2-2

part 1


YouTube - Hudson Valley UFO - Unsolved Mysteries 1/2

part 2


YouTube - Hudson Valley UFO - Unsolved Mysteries 2/2

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Old 04-15-2008, 06:27 AM
 
Location: Downtown Greensboro, NC
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This could be a video of and actual UFO.

part1


YouTube - Unsolved Mysteries - Canadian UFO (Part-1)

Part2


YouTube - Unsolved Mysteries - Canadian UFO (Part-2)
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Old 04-15-2008, 09:20 AM
 
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check out this. This documentary has several parts on Youtube and it talks about the Sumerian creation story which predates the Bible. Its very similar to the Bible story but in Sumerians text its the annunaki that created man. Annuinaki means "those who came from the heavens"

part 1

YouTube - UFO ALIEN -Sumarian Origins of Humans Part 1

part2

YouTube - UFO ALIEN -Sumarian Origins of Humans Part 2

part3


YouTube - UFO ALIEN - Sumarian Origins of Humans Part 3

Yep. I read Sitchen a very long time ago. I also found more readable (less archiologial info, though) The Gods of Eden by Bramley. Think I got that right.
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Old 04-15-2008, 09:39 AM
 
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I particularly appreciated the Falcon videos.

I think the majority of people now believe that some form of extraterrestrial life exists, and a sizable portion of those believe we are being visited. There are just too many sightings, and as they say, even disqualifying as many as we can with possible other explanations, there are still a sizable number that defy any other explanation.

We would tend to agree with some of the government's explanations if they were honest about the others.

We are turning, in many ways, into the 'evil empire' that we despised not so long ago. Perhaps we were always that way and our 'goodness' was always a smoke screen.

People in the USSR had believed, literally, that the streets in the US were paved with gold, that people hardly had to put any effort into achieving a splendid lifestyle in a capitalist system. They believed this trash because their government fed them so much propaganda that there was a tendency to think just the opposite was true.

Part of the reason why it failed stemmed from everyone having so little faith in what they were told that it was every man out for himself and greed ruled.
Sounds familiar?
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Old 04-16-2008, 05:51 AM
 
Location: Downtown Greensboro, NC
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I find it amazing that there are craft as big as two football fields that fly silently as if the craft is as light as a feather.
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Old 04-16-2008, 06:54 AM
 
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More UFO/Alien cave paintings

ancient paintings in Australia (This painting looks like a depiction of the grey aliens.) Notice the side by side comaprison.



more paintings of similar "grey alien" looking beings found in Austrailian caves. The beings have halos like angels.





This figure dates back to 4,000 BC and the little statue has 6 fingers and appears to be wearing some kind of space suit. The Bible says the Nephilim (offspring of fallen angels and earth women) had 6 fingers and 6 toes.



an ancient little statue found in Equador which appears to be wearing a space suit in a side by side comparison with an astronaut


This painting is from 776 AD and you can see a knight pointing to a saucer shaped craft in the sky


The birth of Christ (painted in 1710)



This is an illustration from a book "Ume No Chiri (Dust of Apricot)" published in 1803. A foreign ship and crew witnessed at Haratonohama (Haratono Seashore) in Hitachi no Kuni (Ibaragi Prefecture), Japan this strange object. According to the explanation in the drawing, the outershell was made of iron and glass, and strange letters shown in this drawing were seen inside the ship.


In Egypt
http://atsmedia.cachefly.net/uploads/ats50714_abidos.jpg (broken link)

more ancient art which shows asians in some sort of aerial craft shaped like a saucer


strange image found on the terrain of Mars



photograph of a strange cigar shaped object in the sky. It was taken in 1870 and is known as the world's old UFO photograph.


UFO ACCOUNTS


an actual UFO account from people in in the 15th century

Nice, France 1608

On the evening of August 5th, 1608, three luminous craft were seen by the towns residents over Baie des Anges in Nice, France,

The craft were long, oval in shape and flattened along their lengths, each with a "strange mast" on top of them.

The bay waters began to frothe underneath them, giving off a dense orange vapor, accompanied by a loud, unpleasant noise. From one of the craft two vaguely human looking beings appeared.

They were described as being dressed in red clothes covered with silvery scales, with huge heads and luminous eyes. The two creatures, holding cables or tubes attached to the craft, jumped into the water and moved about their ship for around two hours.

When they returned inside the object, all three left at a high rate of speed.

Later that month on the 22nd, the craft reappeared further south in Genoa, Italy, where they were greeted by over 800 cannonballs that were fired at them, none of the creatures, or aliens emerged. and no damage was observed to the craft.

People panicked, and several deaths were reported as the result of trampling by terrified people, overcome with fear.

Finally the three objects left.


An account from James Cracker of Fleet in Dorser, England 1733

James Cracker of Fleet saw a silvery disk fly overhead during daylight hours. He described his sighting this way:

"Something in the sky which appeared in the north but vanished from my sight, as it was intercepted by trees, from my vision. I was standing in a valley. The weather was warm, the sun shone brightly.

On a sudden it reappeared, darting in and out of my sight with an amazing coruscation. The colour of this phenomenon was like burnished, or new-washed silver. It shot with speed like a star falling in the night. But it had a body much larger, and a train longer than any shooting star I have seen.

Next day Mr. Edgecombe informed me that he and another gentleman had seen this strange phenomenon at the same time as I had. It was about 15 miles from where I saw it, and steering a course from east to north"


an account in 216 BC
216 B.C. Things like ships were seen in the sky over Italy... At Arpi (180 Roman miles, east of Rome, in Apulia) a round shield was seen in the sky. At Capua, the sky was all on fire, and one saw figures like ships

Sworn statement from Alexander Hamilton 1897
1897:
"Last night about 10:30 we were awakened by a noise among the cattle. I arose, thinking that perhaps my bulldog was performing his pranks, but upon going to the door saw to my utter astonishment that an airship was slowly descending upon my cow lot, about 40 rods from the house" Hamilton also described it as a cigar shaped portion, about 300 feet long with a carriage underneath. The carriage was of some transparent material. It was brightly lighted within. It contained six on the strangest beings he had ever seen
Its interesting that this ship was interested in his cow lot. (cow mutilation case?)

329 BC Alexander the Great
329 BC:
Alexander the Great, via his historians: told of 2 strange objects in the sky that dived repeatedly at his army as they were attempting a river crossing. (Jaxartes River). The action so panicked his elephants, horses, and men they had to abandon the river crossing until the following day. They were described as great silver shields, spitting fire around the rims.


99 BC
99 B.C. When C. Murius and L. Valerius were consuls, in Tarquinia, there fell in different places.... a thing like a flaming torch, and it came suddenly from the sky. Towards sunset, a round object like a globe, or round or circular shield took its path in the sky, from west to east

1361 AD
In 1361, a flying object described as being "shaped like a drum, about twenty feet in diameter" emerged from the inland sea off western Japan

1387 AD
In Novr. and Decr. of this year, a fire in the sky, like a burning and revolving wheel, or round barrel of flame, emitting fire from above, and others in the shape of a long fiery beam, were seen through a great deal of the winter, in the county of Leicester, Eng., and in Northamptonshire

flying "earthenware vessel"
A term equivalent to our "flying saucer" was actually used by the Japanese approximately 700 years before it came into use in the West. Ancient documents describe an unusual shining object seen the night of October 27, 1180, as a flying "earthenware vessel." After a while the object, which had been heading northeast from a mountain in Kii province, changed its direction and vanished below the horizon, leaving a luminous trail.

photo of ancient earthenware

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Old 04-16-2008, 07:50 AM
 
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All this so called proof of UFOs just tells me how are ancient ancestors came up with the idea there was a god.
And if they crossbreed with humans it will sure make looking up your ancestry more interesting. Lol
And I thought it was cool being related to U.S.Grant. Now maybe I can inflate my ego by saying Iím descended from those smart little grays.
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Old 04-16-2008, 08:31 AM
 
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not just that but the video you sent us shows the same alien as the one here

YouTube - Alien Autopsy Roswell
Look closely at what the people are doing. Thats not how any specialist would dissect
because its sniping at the organs rather than removing them whole.
Why are they cutting up Michael Steiff, the lead singer from R.E.M.?
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