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Old 01-22-2009, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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A man that lies that much does not warrant my time.
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Old 01-22-2009, 10:48 PM
 
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A man that lies that much does not warrant my time.
Is it that he lied or the debunkers lied?

Go on youtube and search "reptilian shapeshifter". Watch a few videos. See what you see.
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Old 01-22-2009, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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See my post #808...Check the math...I've known people like this guy who would have to be much older if he was actually telling the truth.
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Old 01-23-2009, 12:31 AM
 
Location: UK
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Piperspal: Yes of course we can have levity in our discussion and I did not mean to be too serious. I realise we have all differet opinions on these things and, like religion, there is no proof available for any of these currently belief-based discussions.

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Actually, I am interested in what other people see in these images because once something is fixed in the mind, it is difficult to see it as something else. Like the number 4 moon base thing on the same website, some people just cannot see it but once I saw it, I found that I could not see anything else. This tunnel boring machine could be something else as you say, however, I need other people's ideas as to what else it might be. I cannot think of any other likely explanation for it at the moment, so I am still searching.

I dont mind if no-one accepts my suggestion that it is a tunnel boring machine, but I would like to have a credible alternative that fits the evidence in the photgraph because, as I say, this is the only conclusion I have come to so far.

These kind of Moon conspiracy/UFO/Alien things get a small following of people who believe it is as suggested, and a whole lot more who dismiss it completely as bunkum and hogwash. Both are entitled to their opinions.

As far as rilles are concerned, there are so many different types of rilles that they are probably not all made this way and only a very small sub-set might be made by these machines. However, if even a few are made this way, it still means that the lunar scientists will have to think again if an intelligent 'being' made some. It also means that more people will accept that we are not being told the truth about the Moon and as far as I can see this is what we need to realise at the moment.

Phil Schneider sounds quite convincing. I have watched a couple of his lectures. Of course there are people who want to believe him and those who want to believe that it is all not true. However, I think some of his information has been backed up by others in the Disclosure Project, so maybe some is true, some there are embellishments, maybe there is disinformation or maybe he is older than he wants to admit. You cannot tell what people's motivation for this kind of thing is. There are plenty of other stories from other people that suggest a similar theme and there have been rumours of underground bases for years before he turned up on the scene.
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Old 03-20-2009, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Ireland
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Go on youtube and search "reptilian shapeshifter". Watch a few videos. See what you see.
Lots of video clips uploaded by people with strange imaginations, and even some with stills from old '50s 'B' movies.
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Old 03-23-2009, 06:40 AM
 
Location: UK
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Actually, after I was so convinced that my rille-making machine was real, I went to another forum ( Bad Astronomy and Universe Today Forum ) where they had a most convincing argument that I was totally mistaken. Now, I dont really know what to believe any more. I may be misleading myself, but I like to think that I am not so totally fixed in my ideas that I cannot change my mind when presented with good sound sense.

A couple of months ago, I saw a UK Daily Telegraph article about UFOs over the last 40 years and it was remarkable how similar some of them were. Part I here UFO sightings: 140 years of UFO pictures - Telegraph. There are 3 parts altogether.

Today there has been a mobile phone photograph showing 4 UFOs over London but they were not seen by the naked eye at the time the picture was taken. That kind of thing is strange. UFOs photographed over London - Telegraph

The UK government are also regularly releasing UFO case investigations under the Freedom of Information Act of Parliament and the most recent release of some files was on 22March2009 Revealed: How the government probed Britain's greatest UFO mystery - Telegraph
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Old 09-10-2009, 11:25 AM
 
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we all need 2 b scolars - do ur own research! do not form solid opinions eitha way. use ur own instictive discernment. here's sum sites which shud help giv u leads ov investigation:
[url=http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/exopolitica/esp_exopolitics_ZJ02.htm]UFO Lecture by Capt. Bill Robertson - Transcript from Video (1990)[/url] , [url=http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Archeology.html]Archeology[/url] , [url=http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_archivetc16.htm]Archive TC - 16[/url] , [url=http://www.alienshift.com/id245.html]Alienshift, MARS, UFO, Alien, Pole Shift, Time Travel, 2012, IRAN, IRAQ, RUSSIA, CHINA, ARMAGEDDON, UFO Video, NASA, SUFISM, ASCENSION[/url] , [url=http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Illuminati/nwo_symbols.htm]New World Order Symbols[/url] , [url=http://www.theblackvault.com/]Initializing The Black Vault...[/url] , [url=http://serpo.org/releases.php]Serpo.org - The Zeta Reticuli Exchange Program: Releases[/url] , [url=http://www.ufocasebook.com/Hill.html]The Betty and Barney Hill Abduction, Part 1-UFO Casebook Files[/url] , [url=http://www.bibleufo.com/ufos.htm]The Bible UFO Connection - UFOs In History - 45,000 BC - 9 BC[/url] , [url=http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_andromedacom.htm]Alex Collier and The Andromeda Compendium[/url] , Galactic Diplomacy (http://www.galacticdiplomacy.com/Arcturians.htm - broken link) , [url=http://www.reconnections.net/archive.htm]Transmissions and Commentaries[/url] , [url=http://www.pleiadiantalk.tk/]pleiadiantalk.tk[/url] , [url=http://thebiggestsecret.online.fr/chemtrails/mechanics_story.htm]Title - The Biggest Secret Forum[/url] , [url=http://www.think-aboutit.com/Mars/SecretColoniesonMars.htm]Secret Colonies on Mars[/url] , [url=http://www.galacticmessages.com/blog/tag/galactic-federation-of-light/]Galactic Federation Of Light | GalacticMessages.com[/url]

this shud act as a good starting point . . . remember, the universe, & whatever else is out there, is xtremely varied, we'v only started to learn.
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Old 09-10-2009, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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we all need 2 b scolars - do ur own research! do not form solid opinions eitha way. use ur own instictive discernment. here's sum sites which shud help giv u leads ov investigation:
UFO Lecture by Capt. Bill Robertson - Transcript from Video (1990) , Archeology , Archive TC - 16 , Alienshift, MARS, UFO, Alien, Pole Shift, Time Travel, 2012, IRAN, IRAQ, RUSSIA, CHINA, ARMAGEDDON, UFO Video, NASA, SUFISM, ASCENSION , New World Order Symbols , Initializing The Black Vault... , Serpo.org - The Zeta Reticuli Exchange Program: Releases , The Betty and Barney Hill Abduction, Part 1-UFO Casebook Files , The Bible UFO Connection - UFOs In History - 45,000 BC - 9 BC , Alex Collier and The Andromeda Compendium , Galactic Diplomacy (http://www.galacticdiplomacy.com/Arcturians.htm - broken link) , Transmissions and Commentaries , pleiadiantalk.tk , Title - The Biggest Secret Forum , Secret Colonies on Mars , Galactic Federation Of Light | GalacticMessages.com

this shud act as a good starting point . . . remember, the universe, & whatever else is out there, is xtremely varied, we'v only started to learn.
Perhaps if you tried that again in English...a couple of words spelled correctly...maybe even a complete sentence or two...it might have been comprehensible. Then again, maybe not.
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Old 09-10-2009, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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We have all heard of the cover-up stories about UFOs. The biggest question everyone wants to ask. If they are real, why is the goverenment covering it up? There are probabally a couple of BIG reasons to keep it secret at all cost. The first is "Energy". What if the world was introduced to a form of "free" energy? Think of what it would do to the oil companies. It would upset the world economy. Secondly, knowledge of the phenomina could upset religous institutions. It has been said by some top government people with high credentials that the goverenment is covering up UFOs and the extraterestrial presense because it would be hard for people to find out that their religion was all a "myth". These "officials" have said that the ETs have modified our DNA over time and that they had a hand in creating the world's religions. In ensence we are "hybrids" according to these officials and the early ape man was the origional human being. All this sounds VERY far out but these stories are coming from certian government personel that have had positions in NATO and other branch of US and world government. That kinda mirrors what it says in the Book of Genesis in the Bible when it refers to the "fallen ones" which were not human. The scriptures says they took earth women as wives and produced offspring.

Many people believe that the Roswell crash did happen in 1947. At the time a report was released saying the army captured a "flying saucer" the story almost imediately changed to a wheather balloon. It was forgotten for decades until 1978 when Major Jesse Marcel Jr said he handled the debre from the UFO wreckage and said the balloon story was a lie and that it was indeed wreckage from a crashed extraterstrial vehicle. Marcel said pieces of the wreckage had "mysterious properties" Then there were stories about the alien bodies. In the 1990s the goverenment came out with a book called "Roswell Case Closed" The governement said it was a balloon but they added it was the top secret project Mogul. They went on to explain that the bodies people were seeing were dummies that were dropped from the balloons. However there was a problem with the government's story. They didnt begin dropping dummies til the mid 1950s and the Roswell incedent happened in 1947. When this was brought to the government's attention they said "well people are just confusing different events at different times" What a crock Shi _. Project Mogul was indeed a classified program, However, It wasnt the same event that happened in July of 1947. Project Mogul was declassified years before the government came out with the book. Since it had already been declassified, why was it years laters when the government "confessed" that the Roswell crash was actually Project Mogul? It makes no sense at all. Its fair to say that the US governement is still covering up Roswell. They've already lied to us twice about the incedent.

here is footage that surfaced up. Its suppose to be footage of one of the bodies in hanger 84 in Roswell. The footage looks legit and it does appear to be footage from 1947. Notice the body in the footage has 6 fingers, a large head and it appears to have no sex organs. The body looks almost human but you can tell that its not quite human. The source of the video comes from an old military photographer.


YouTube - Roswell 1947 Alien Footage!
My conclusion is that UFO's are real. I don't know what they are and where they come from, but they are real. They also seem have little to no interest in human affairs or a desire to take anything from the planet, otherwise we would be alien pets, snacks or slaves by now. They are also advanced beyond comprehension to us, like putting a Neanderthal in the space shuttle. If they wanted us or anything we had we would be powerless against them. That fact also points the absurdity of assuming the government had a crashed UFO and alien bodies. I don't think the aliens would have let them even get to them, much less keep it. Roswell has past into mythical status and it is impossible to separate fact and fiction anymore.

So why would the government cover them up? Well, in a nutshell they haven't. The government doesn't know anything more than we do. They don't have crashed saucers or advanced alien knowledge at their disposal. They are at a loss to explain the phenomenon, just like us. That video is a fake. Even WW2 combat footage is better quality; it's the first clue this video is BS. Not to mention that ANYTHING can be put on a video these days and made absolutely realistic looking.


I've said it before, but the whole conspiracy thing is a tangled mess of lies to cover lies of lies, mostly to cover up "legimate" earthy military experiments. But it boils down to this: For the U.S., the best way to deal with a unexplainable phenomena that is untrackable, undefinable and pretty much harmless is to deny it exists. In Europe, all that is said is there is "No threat to national security" That's as far as they've gotten on the subject, honestly.
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Old 09-10-2009, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Ireland
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we all need 2 b scolars - do ur own research! do not form solid opinions eitha way. use ur own instictive discernment. here's sum sites which shud help giv u leads ov investigation:
this shud act as a good starting point . . . remember, the universe, & whatever else is out there, is xtremely varied, we'v only started to learn.
Pardon?

After you were kidnapped by the aliens did they try to teach you some strange language?
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