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Old Today, 11:47 AM
 
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Id love to hear how they try to connect missing eyes and tongues with any of the 3 'natural' explanations they listed!


I think its pretty clear, something supernatural was to blame for this, not sure why so many people have a hard time accepting this explanation, it was sufficient for decades before?!!
It was two and a half months until they found those bodies and they originally felt that the soft tissue disintegrated. They did not feel there was any paranormal or supernatural explanation necessary.
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Id love to hear how they try to connect missing eyes and tongues with any of the 3 'natural' explanations they listed!


I think its pretty clear, something supernatural was to blame for this, not sure why so many people have a hard time accepting this explanation, it was sufficient for decades before?!!

From everything I've read in the files/local newspaper of that time/ multiple witnesses testimonies, it was sufficient to convince me. It was sufficient for the investigator as well, to realize that something paranormal took place. But the investigator was an intelligent man, which you can't tell about many other people.
You need to understand, that Soviet society ( particularly back in THAT period) was very much "programmed" by the Soviet directives, and according to the Soviet directives there was no such thing as "god" for example, and there was no such thing as "paranormal."

So part of Russian population was of that train of thought, and part remained normal and open-minded ( just keeping their thoughts to themselves.) Ivanov belonged to the latter category, so he KNEW that something defying the "normal" took place, however there were plenty of others, who were still insistent on all kinds of the "government conspiracies" - the rocket tests and what's not, and then there were others who were stubbornly repeating the "avalanche" theory.



And no, of course NONE of the injuries that those three sustained were fitting into anything and everything the medical science knew at that time. The pathologist ( very experienced at that) who did the autopsy was very detailed in the description. He was the one who said that in order to receive those crashed ribs, the deceased should have been struck by a vehicle, however there were no external injuries on them.
The missing tongue and eyes have set the alarm as well, particularly because as I've mentioned earlier, they thought she ( Dubinina) was still alive when her tongue was removed ( there was blood in her stomach.)
I mean those were the reasons the criminal investigation has been opened after these last bodies were discovered, and not BEFORE that.

Of course none of it ( and many other facts) can be explained with the help of the "natural" explanations.
If that's what the current investigation wants to zero in, they'll have to dismiss A LOT of paperwork in those files, so this effort then comes across more as the publicity stunt than anything else.
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