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Old 01-30-2018, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Concord NC
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Anyone ever hear of the possibility of pre-incarnation? For people who feel like they want a re-shuffle on the current handful of cards?
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Old 02-05-2018, 04:19 PM
 
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Is life just a never ending recycling process you think?
If so, then you just condemned the entirety of the eastern religious concepts of reincarnation. They would be appalled at that thought.

Once again, most of the people here are expounding a warped concept of reincarnation borrowed from eastern religions and translated into western new age media/pop culture - books and movies. The concept from eastern religions is totally different - the final goal is NOT to reincarnate. Nor do you remember your past lives (except if you are like the dalai lama) as the identity does not reincarnate.
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Old 02-05-2018, 08:04 PM
 
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If so, then you just condemned the entirety of the eastern religious concepts of reincarnation. They would be appalled at that thought.
It wasn't a condemnation, it was a question.

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Nor do you remember your past lives (except if you are like the dalai lama) as the identity does not reincarnate.
There have been cases of children, usually under the age of 6, who
remember details from their past lives.


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Old 02-06-2018, 07:14 AM
 
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There have been cases of children, usually under the age of 6, who
remember details from their past lives.


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Of course...
and there are cases, tens of thousands of them, of middle aged housewives that remember details from their past lives. Surprisingly, they are all queens and countesses in these past lives.
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Old 02-06-2018, 11:17 AM
 
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Of course...
and there are cases, tens of thousands of them, of middle aged housewives that remember details from their past lives. Surprisingly, they are all queens and countesses in these past lives.
I find the cases of children, who would have had no way of knowing
the details of a past lifeóother than having actually lived itómore
compelling.

In addition, it's apparently rare that the people these children recall
being are of any high-profile status
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Old 02-06-2018, 12:48 PM
 
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Is life just a never ending recycling process you think?
One way to look at it is that when you die, your body rots or disintegrates. The minerals that were once you, are consumed, absorbed and used to sustain other forms of life, such as microbes, and is ultimately passed up through the chain of life once again. When you're gnawing on a carrot, that carrot absorbed organic nutrients once that belonged to a different life form. Granted, many minerals also come from inorganic materials as well. Some things through decomposition, such as gases, can be released into the atmosphere, others might end up in the water supply. When you die, your remains help a lot of other living things survive or be released in the form of atoms and particles. When a body is cremated, much of what is physically left is carbon and bit of calcium. It depends on how thoroughly the body is cremated. Even so, everything, including bits of bone will continue to break down and ultimately find its way into helping new life thrive and exist one way or another.

That said, is life a never ending recycling process? Probably not. Everything, including the Universe itself will eventually come to an end, even though so far off in the distant future that it's too abstract and beyond our ability to fully envision or comprehend.

Over extremely long scales of time of the universe, everything will slowly come to an end, right down to the atomic and subatomic level. At that point, there would be no trace that anything ever existed in what was once considered to be the observable Universe. Whatever existed in our own tiny pocket of existence, would be long gone. If photons continue to exist, then perhaps the information they carry may contain a tiny record of our existence, although it would be pretty meaningless over such long scales of space and time as photons would be spread out so far apart that they would seldom, if ever, cross with any other photons. If anything exists beyond that point, it would likely be virtual particles that pop in and out of existence from energetic fields.
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Old 02-21-2018, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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If so, then you just condemned the entirety of the eastern religious concepts of reincarnation. They would be appalled at that thought.

Once again, most of the people here are expounding a warped concept of reincarnation borrowed from eastern religions and translated into western new age media/pop culture - books and movies. The concept from eastern religions is totally different - the final goal is NOT to reincarnate. Nor do you remember your past lives (except if you are like the dalai lama) as the identity does not reincarnate.
That's not entirely true. In some religions the entire spiritual entity does reincarnate. In others, "bits" of karma matter are accumulated and will reincarnate along with the core soul. These bits are actually literally considered physical/tangible. In others, you are only a soul when certain aspects are present, in a body (aggregates), but when you die, they fly apart again (more or less), are no longer "one" soul and pieces come together with other pieces for the next born soul, and so on.

Eastern religions do not have just one consistent view of what reincarnation "is" or even what a soul "is."

Generally the goal is not to have to reincarnate. But there are exceptions, like Bodhisattvas, who deliberately reincarnate although they are fully enlightened and realized and hence, should have achieved nirvana and escaped samsara (life, death, rebirth). A legend attached to Siddhartha was that he was the reincarnation of a karmically very advanced soul who killed himself to preserve the life of a nursing mother tiger (he let her eat him). The idea, although Buddhist, was that of a literal reincarnation of that "person"/soul (identity). Meanwhile, in Hinduism, Vishnu reincarnated directly at least eight times. Although the latter example consisted of gods plus adventurous, demigod-like humans, the former two - Siddhartha and his predecessor incarnation, with the intimation of many prior to that one as well, since the identity/soul was "advanced" - were very decidedly human.
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Old 02-26-2018, 09:27 AM
 
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The Reincarnation of Peter Proud. Fiction...but a good read
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Old 02-27-2018, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Duncan, Oklahoma
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The Reincarnation of Peter Proud. Fiction...but a good read
I remember watching this movie as a young person. (Michael Sarrazin as Peter)

Creepy. However, I really liked it.
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