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Old 01-06-2018, 08:07 AM
 
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What probably happened is Eishenhower was taken somewhere to see either a recovered craft or alien body at some point, and the whole incident got blown way out of proportion, to now include some kind official meeting/ treaty!
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Old 01-06-2018, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Southwest
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However there is one aspect that may contradict this, all the times fighter jets and or attack helicopters are scrambled when UFOs show up, in some cases, the military aircraft have tried to chase and engage the UFOs, and the UFOs vanish or fly off, point is, they try to avoid getting caught, why would they not just shoot the military craft out of the sky for trying to engage it, why would be so elusive against a much less advanced craft?


Didn't an alleged UFO shoot down a fighter plane or two in the Soviet Union before the breakup of said country.
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Old 01-06-2018, 12:16 PM
 
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The increasing number of people who disappear from national forests and parks is staggering, as are the increasing numbers of reports and sightings and encounters of genetically bio-engineered new and dangerous lifeforms out in the wilds.
Check out the you-tube channels of the legitimate researchers and what is being said about these cases. That is in addition to those walking into invisible dimensional portals that pop up in wilderness areas, and a mighty few manage to come back out into this reality to talk about it but get shushed up by Park personnel trying to keep it from becoming public. That is an admission that it has gotten way out of control and our leaders can do nothing about it. Maybe there are multiple causes with connections to any or all of these out-of-control beings and/or the machinations of CERN trying to open portals into other dimensions having unseen results all over the planet.

Missing 411-Western United States

https://dogmanencounters.com/

https://mysteriousfacts.com/mysterio...rown-mountain/

https://science.howstuffworks.com/sc...onal-parks.htm


This gives everyone something to think about before hitting the back country!
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Old 01-06-2018, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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And, let us not forget about that Malaysian flight that came up missing a couple of years ago.
Perhaps it is as I had envisioned with in seconds of hearing of it's disappearance.


Bob.
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Old 01-07-2018, 10:24 PM
 
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The increasing number of people who disappear from national forests and parks is staggering, as are the increasing numbers of reports and sightings and encounters of genetically bio-engineered new and dangerous lifeforms out in the wilds.
Check out the you-tube channels of the legitimate researchers and what is being said about these cases. That is in addition to those walking into invisible dimensional portals that pop up in wilderness areas, and a mighty few manage to come back out into this reality to talk about it but get shushed up by Park personnel trying to keep it from becoming public. That is an admission that it has gotten way out of control and our leaders can do nothing about it. Maybe there are multiple causes with connections to any or all of these out-of-control beings and/or the machinations of CERN trying to open portals into other dimensions having unseen results all over the planet.

Missing 411-Western United States

https://dogmanencounters.com/

https://mysteriousfacts.com/mysterio...rown-mountain/

https://science.howstuffworks.com/sc...onal-parks.htm


This gives everyone something to think about before hitting the back country!
This isnt some new phenomena though, its been going on for 1000s of years. People back in the 1400s were seeing the exact same things that are seen and reported today, its the same shapes, behavior, capabilities, etc.

This does not sound like what an advanced race of extraterrestrial beings would do upon discovering a new planet or world imo, it does give some credibility to the Panspermia theory though.
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Old 01-08-2018, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Maine
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This does not sound like what an advanced race of extraterrestrial beings would do upon discovering a new planet or world imo.
How do we know what might motivate extraterrestrial beings??? Your statement is assuming that ETs might behave like humans. They might. But they might not. They might have a completely different evolutionary track and may have completely different motivations. Or not.

We simply don't know, because we have no hard facts. But we should not proceed upon assumptions.
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Old 01-08-2018, 11:00 AM
 
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How do we know what might motivate extraterrestrial beings??? Your statement is assuming that ETs might behave like humans. They might. But they might not. They might have a completely different evolutionary track and may have completely different motivations. Or not.

We simply don't know, because we have no hard facts. But we should not proceed upon assumptions.
I have a feeling if one landed and sat down and explained why they are doing all this, it probably wouldnt make any sense to us at all.

Another aspect to this Im not sure about, is the fact that over such a long period of time, their craft/ technology, appears to remain the same, Reading thru witness reports from the 1800s, those people were seeing the same types of crafts (with the same capabilities) as those reported in modern UFO sightings. Its kind of strange to think a civilization could ever reach a point where its aircraft technology stays the same over hundreds of years, if not longer. Id think they would be progressing in technology as well over time.

Just look at how different manmade aircraft is now compared to just 50 yrs ago, its a night and day difference!
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Old 01-08-2018, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Maine
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I have a feeling if one landed and sat down and explained why they are doing all this, it probably wouldnt make any sense to us at all.
Yup.

But that's assuming they could even communicate at all. Lots of reasons to think they might not be able to. We can't communicate with chimpanzees beyond a very rudimentary level, and they are very close to us in terms of evolution. How could we possibly hope to communicate with a creature from an entirely different planet or dimension?

Maybe we could. But it's an assumption.

And it isn't even a matter of a different language. They might not even use language.


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Another aspect to this Im not sure about, is the fact that over such a long period of time, their craft/ technology, appears to remain the same, Reading thru witness reports from the 1800s, those people were seeing the same types of crafts (with the same capabilities) as those reported in modern UFO sightings. Its kind of strange to think a civilization could ever reach a point where its aircraft technology stays the same over hundreds of years, if not longer. Id think they would be progressing in technology as well over time.

Just look at how different manmade aircraft is now compared to just 50 yrs ago, its a night and day difference!
How do we even know they are spacecraft or aircraft? That's another assumption. They might be. They might not be. They might be the beings themselves. Or the equivalent of drones. Or the equivalent of kites. Or the equivalent of paper airplanes. Or the equivalent of garden gnomes. Or something for which we have no concept.
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Old 01-09-2018, 06:03 AM
 
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Yup.

But that's assuming they could even communicate at all. Lots of reasons to think they might not be able to. We can't communicate with chimpanzees beyond a very rudimentary level, and they are very close to us in terms of evolution. How could we possibly hope to communicate with a creature from an entirely different planet or dimension?

Maybe we could. But it's an assumption.

And it isn't even a matter of a different language. They might not even use language.




How do we even know they are spacecraft or aircraft? That's another assumption. They might be. They might not be. They might be the beings themselves. Or the equivalent of drones. Or the equivalent of kites. Or the equivalent of paper airplanes. Or the equivalent of garden gnomes. Or something for which we have no concept.
I do not think communication would be a problem between humans and aliens, as they would know what our language is and know how to use it, whether they choose to do this is something else though. Even if they communicated thru telepathy, any human could receive it, and 'hear' what they are saying, although they would not be able to speak to the alien like this

I agree with you about their crafts, I have read some things in the past that lead me to believe the craft itself may be a living/ biological entity. I dont think its a coincidence that every picture of video of these craft is blurred, out of focus either, I think something about them is not entirely compatible with our technology, its not as simple as just 'beings and their craft coming from somewhere else'...its more complex.
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Old 01-09-2018, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Maine
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I do not think communication would be a problem between humans and aliens, as they would know what our language is and know how to use it, whether they choose to do this is something else though.
Why should we think that all races even evolved the concept of language? Most species on Earth don't utilize language. We have no reason to think that an advanced species from elsewhere might communicate through scent, electro-magnetic pulses, spectra of light we can't even see, music, chemical exchange, jell-o molds, crystalline origami, etc. "Shaka, when the walls fell!"

Our brains might not even be equipped to receive the means of their communications --- and vice versa.


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Even if they communicated thru telepathy, any human could receive it, and 'hear' what they are saying, although they would not be able to speak to the alien like this.
But what if they don't "say" anything and never have? What if their species evolved in a deep ocean and communicated through bio-luminescence? Or chemical exchange? Or vibrations in their outer membranes?

The possibilities are almost infinite.
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