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Old 01-05-2018, 09:58 PM
 
Location: PRC
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Battle of Los Angeles 1942 - Wikipedia
Although the Wikipedia article clearly believes this is a 'false alarm' by the jittery military soon after Pearl Harbour, there are many civillian witnesses to this including the air warden Katie who gives us the quote below.

What people forget and is NOT explained by the Wikipedia article is that there were several deaths due to the rain of bullets and anti-aircraft shrapnel from the gunfire which rebounded from the object and landed on the ground in the city beneath the objects. Gunfire is NOT deflected from a blimp or barrage balloon or even enemy fighters, which would be much further up in the sky. There were no bombs or wreckage from the attack so from an enemy point of view - what was the point?

Rense.com article
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The U.S. Army anti-aircraft searchlights by this time had the object completely covered. "They sent fighter planes up (the Army denied any of its fighters were in action) and I watched them in groups approach it and then turn away. There were shooting at it but it didn't seem to matter." Katie is insistent about the use of planes in the attack on the object. The planes were apparently called off after several minutes and then the ground cannon opened up. "It was like the Fourth of July but much louder. They were firing like crazy but they couldn't touch it." The attack on the object lasted over half an hour before the visitor eventually disappeared from sight. Many eyewitnesses talked of numerous "direct hits" on the big craft but no damage was seen done to it.
Washington UFO flap 1952 - Wikipedia
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Two of the objects clearly hovered over the White House, with another one over the Capitol. Controllers at both airports began tracking the objects, which they estimated to be traveling at about 130 mph when they suddenly disappeared from the radar screen. Then appeared again, zipping all around the sky. One made a 90-degree turn and another one suddenly went in reverse, both maneuvers that American airplanes could not make at the time.

An airline captain, S.C. Pierman, was waiting on the tarmac in the cockpit of his DC-4 at National Airport for authorization to take off. While waiting, he saw six objects moving about the sky. Over a 14-minute time period, Pierman would see the objects and then they would disappear, reappearing moments later. He was talking to controller Barnes this entire time. Every time Pierman reported a sighting, a blip appeared on Barnes’s radar screen. At 5:30 a.m. on Sunday morning, July 20, the objects disappeared entirely.
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Old 01-05-2018, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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...What people forget and is NOT explained by the Wikipedia article is that there were several deaths due to the rain of bullets and anti-aircraft shrapnel from the gunfire which rebounded from the object and landed on the ground in the city beneath the objects. Gunfire is NOT deflected from a blimp or barrage balloon or even enemy fighters, which would be much further up in the sky. There were no bombs or wreckage from the attack so from an enemy point of view - what was the point?...
If a bullet is fired straight up and doesn't hit anything, it gradually loses velocity until it's speed is zero. It then falls back to earth. The projectile does not reach escape velocity and go on forever. Old Isaac Newton knew what he was talking about. There's an interesting report of army experiments in shooting bullets straight up that may be of interest. You will find the book on Amazon. If you don't wish to purchase it, you can easily get it through interlibrary loan or your local library may have it. It's a standard reference work.

https://smile.amazon.com/Hatchers-No...r%27s+Notebook
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Old 01-05-2018, 11:53 PM
 
Location: PRC
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If a bullet is fired straight up and doesn't hit anything, it gradually loses velocity until it's speed is zero. It then falls back to earth. The projectile does not reach escape velocity and go on forever.
This is obvious.

Who ever said they fired their bullets straight up. It is unlikely that the anti-aircraft guns were directly below whatever was there that night. However, if the item was a balloon as claimed by the military, then a shell would probably have passed straight through it.

If the item was a UFO then from the reports it was obviously not damaged and had some kind of protection which WOULD have caused the shells and shrapnel to bounce off that protection and fall to ground.

If the item was an enemy aircraft, then it would have been too high to make the shells or shrapnel fall on the city.

Even if fired straight up(90 degrees from level ground), it is unlikely that they would come down in the same area as it just needs a small angle to make a large difference in the landing place. A shell can travel a long way without anything for it to hit. As I understand it, some anti-aircraft shells were set to explode at a particular height at which the aircraft were flying. If they were the kind which did not explode at a particular height, then they would have carried on to fall some distance away.

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Photos 1942 Los Angeles area

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Three searchlights stab the sky during the blackout in Los Angeles Feb. 25, 1942, seeking an unidentified object which moved slowly down the coast from Santa Monica and disappeared. The perpendicular streak at left was made by a tracer bullet. Associated Press photo; la abc cxnyn2 rhs 2/25/42 mb
Dont you think people could identify it if it moved slowly down the coast from Santa Monica and then disappeared ?

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Old 01-06-2018, 08:09 AM
 
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Im not sure about the CA one, but the ones over DC were the real deal. Many many people saw these things, and there are plenty of pictures.
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Old 01-08-2018, 12:37 PM
 
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The one over L.A. was real as well. Something was up there and there are many hundreds of witnesses both military and civilian that saw it. It was seen hovering and then after a while it just moved away. The military later said it was just a weather balloon that lost it's tether or something similar. If thousands of rounds of ammunition fired by our military can't knock down a floating weather balloon, God help us.
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Old 01-09-2018, 09:08 PM
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It’s always a weather balloon.
Every time.
Not saying it’s aliens or space ships, but the government are horrible liars.
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