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Old 01-18-2018, 02:10 AM
 
Location: Heart of Dixie
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These don't seem the same...
And two photographs of individuals don't accurately depict every person on the planet.

Edit: This boils down to limited scientific understanding at the time. Obviously, the observer(s) weren't able to comprehend what they saw. I mean, how can you explain that "smiley face" on the depiction of the sun. Simple minds are limited to simple explanations.

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Old 01-18-2018, 03:08 AM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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And two photographs of individuals don't accurately depict every person on the planet.

Edit: This boils down to limited scientific understanding at the time. Obviously, the observer(s) weren't able to comprehend what they saw. I mean, how can you explain that "smiley face" on the depiction of the sun. Simple minds are limited to simple explanations.
I wasn't talking about the old pictures. I was comparing the photographs in modern articles (I chose those two as typical) to the modern photograph linked from the OP.
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Old 01-18-2018, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Maine
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So did anyone actually read the articles? Or did you just head right to ancient aliens? Read the info. Look at the photos. They are pretty obviously military aircraft of some sort.
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Old 01-18-2018, 10:07 AM
 
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And two photographs of individuals don't accurately depict every person on the planet.

Edit: This boils down to limited scientific understanding at the time. Obviously, the observer(s) weren't able to comprehend what they saw. I mean, how can you explain that "smiley face" on the depiction of the sun. Simple minds are limited to simple explanations.
These things in the sky were literally battling with each other, some were crashing down to the ground...that does not sound like some kind of natural phenomena or mis-ID of something else.
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Old 01-18-2018, 02:36 PM
 
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These things in the sky were literally battling with each other, some were crashing down to the ground...that does not sound like some kind of natural phenomena or mis-ID of something else.
How do you know they were "literally battling with each other"? Third-hand accounts of anything are rarely even remotely accurate.
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Old 01-19-2018, 05:06 AM
 
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How do you know they were "literally battling with each other"? Third-hand accounts of anything are rarely even remotely accurate.
"These all started to fight among themselves, so that the globes, which were first in the sun, flew out to the ones standing on both sides, thereafter, the globes standing outside the sun, in the small and large rods, flew into the sun. Besides the globes flew back and forth among themselves and fought vehemently with each other for over an hour. And when the conflict in and again out of the sun was most intense, they became fatigued to such an extent that they all, as said above, fell from the sun down upon the earth Ďas if they all burnedí and they then wasted away on the earth with immense smoke.

This is not third hand, its first hand accounts from people who saw it happen. Newspaper articles today report the same thing, first hand accounts from those who saw it happen, their descriptions.






After all this there was something like a black spear, very long and thick, sighted; the shaft pointed to the east, the point pointed west."

This is describing a big black triangle, people back then used terms they were familiar with in their descriptions.
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Old 01-19-2018, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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"These all started to fight among themselves, so that the globes, which were first in the sun, flew out to the ones standing on both sides, thereafter, the globes standing outside the sun, in the small and large rods, flew into the sun. Besides the globes flew back and forth among themselves and fought vehemently with each other for over an hour. And when the conflict in and again out of the sun was most intense, they became fatigued to such an extent that they all, as said above, fell from the sun down upon the earth Ďas if they all burnedí and they then wasted away on the earth with immense smoke.

This is not third hand, its first hand accounts from people who saw it happen. Newspaper articles today report the same thing, first hand accounts from those who saw it happen, their descriptions.






After all this there was something like a black spear, very long and thick, sighted; the shaft pointed to the east, the point pointed west."

This is describing a big black triangle, people back then used terms they were familiar with in their descriptions.
The people who saw it could give a first hand account. The newspaper account would be second hand. Yours is third hand.
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Old 01-19-2018, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Heart of Dixie
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It's still nothing more than a description of a sundog. Any explanation is limited by the education of the observer(s).

What if I told you I can pull a playing card through a pane of glass, and I proceeded to demonstrate that ability? What if I told you I have self-tying shoelaces, and you watch my shoelaces tie themselves before your eyes? In the 1500's I'd be burned alive for those demonstrations. Today, they are parlor tricks.
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Old 01-19-2018, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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It's still nothing more than a description of a sundog. Any explanation is limited by the education of the observer(s).

What if I told you I can pull a playing card through a pane of glass, and I proceeded to demonstrate that ability? What if I told you I have self-tying shoelaces, and you watch my shoelaces tie themselves before your eyes? In the 1500's I'd be burned alive for those demonstrations. Today, they are parlor tricks.
I'd be very impressed.
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Old 01-19-2018, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Heart of Dixie
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I'd be very impressed.
Ha ha!!! Then you'd enjoy the trick where I push a signed quarter into an unopened soda can, then proceed to open the can and pour the contents (including the quarter) into a glass.

Like I stated previously, these "magical" feats would have one burned alive back in the 16th century. Maybe they would even merit a woodcarving or two.
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