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Old 01-30-2018, 09:24 AM
 
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DO please tell us this "law".

Scientists are a tough group to keep shut. They communicate with one another constantly, they are the most inquisitive people on earth and if there was genuine evidence they would be the first to be screaming. That is their nature. There is NO law on the books for anything of this sort.
It is a FEMA related regulation, this comes from chapter 7 and 10 from the FEMA training manual...

"expectations of panic often become the justification for giving the public incomplete information about an environmental threat or withholding it ... The misconception that accurate information will cause panic sometimes leads officials to release information that actually decreases the likelihood of compliance.
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Old 01-30-2018, 09:39 AM
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Location: Greenville, SC
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Author H.P. Lovecraft, a man who was known to faint when the temperature fell below 40, wrote "At the Mountains of Madness," a supposedly fictional account of a prehuman civilization in Antarctica. Lovecraft neither drank nor smoked and ate the simplest foods, but he died of stomach cancer at the age of 47.

Now, we have three idiopathic deaths.
idiopathic (adj) - relating to or denoting any disease or condition that arises spontaneously or for which the cause is unknown.

Except Nimitz died of a stroke complicated by pneumonia, at the age of 80. That ain't idiopathic, it's called being old and dying of what takes out many people that age. No mystery there.

Lovecraft said of his diet:

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I’m not, however, a heavy eater—take only 2 meals per day, since my digestion raises hell if I try to eat oftener than once in 7 hours.
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The health impacts of an H. Pylori infection:

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Helicobacter pylori, previously known as Campylobacter pylori, is a gram-negative, microaerophilic bacterium usually found in the stomach. It was identified in 1982 by Australian scientists Barry Marshall and Robin Warren, who found that it was present in a person with chronic gastritis and gastric ulcers, conditions not previously believed to have a microbial cause. It is also linked to the development of duodenal ulcers and stomach cancer.
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Lovecraft said he had to be careful about eating because he had digestive issues. H. Pylori is a frequent cause of said digestive issues - as well as of stomach cancer. Again, likely not an idiopathic death at all.

Regarding Admiral Byrd - he died at the age of 68 of an unspecified heart ailment at home. My mother and father both died of heart attacks - at home. My father's mother died of a stroke - at home. People who die of lingering illnesses tend to die in hospitals or hospices, people who die suddenly tend to die at home. Again, hard to see heart disease at 68 as idiopathic given statistics.

However, in the spirit of stoking mysteries and conspiracies, I offer you this story about his son who fell off the grid on the way to meet his mother for a ceremony honoring his father - and who was found dead in a warehouse in Baltimore - age 68:

Body of Adm. Byrd's Son, 68, Found in Empty Warehouse - NYTimes.com

Ooooeeeeeoooo.
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Old 01-30-2018, 10:53 AM
 
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It is a FEMA related regulation, this comes from chapter 7 and 10 from the FEMA training manual...

"expectations of panic often become the justification for giving the public incomplete information about an environmental threat or withholding it ... The misconception that accurate information will cause panic sometimes leads officials to release information that actually decreases the likelihood of compliance.
Once again, please include some links and page numbers! There are numerous pdf FEMA training manuals and informational publications.
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Old 01-30-2018, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Falls Church, Fairfax County
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It is a FEMA related regulation, this comes from chapter 7 and 10 from the FEMA training manual...

"expectations of panic often become the justification for giving the public incomplete information about an environmental threat or withholding it ... The misconception that accurate information will cause panic sometimes leads officials to release information that actually decreases the likelihood of compliance.
OK, even if it is in "the FEMA training manual" that still does not mean it is a law. Also US law does not account for the fact that people from other countries do not say anything...
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Old 01-30-2018, 11:18 AM
 
Location: USA
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Did they find Ice Station Zebra?
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Old 01-30-2018, 05:23 PM
 
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They only actual documented " goings on" down there is that newly discovered volcanic activity is causing glaciers to melt but that is offset by colder trending temperatures which is causing more ice elsewhere. The "Operation HighJump" is some strange stuff and intriguing, honestly. I have my own theories on that.
Nobody said anything about that American scientific Outpost 31 which was mysteriously destroyed back in the early 1980s.
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Old 01-30-2018, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Heart of Dixie
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...Nobody said anything about that American scientific Outpost 31 which was mysteriously destroyed back in the early 1980s.
Because it was a movie set for "The Thing" (1982) and was destroyed at the end of the movie.
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Old 01-30-2018, 05:42 PM
 
Location: StlNoco Mo
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Because it was a movie set for "The Thing" (1982) and was destroyed at the end of the movie.
That was a cool movie.
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Old 01-30-2018, 08:03 PM
 
Location: PRC
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There is no excuse for the absolute rubbish we get from the satellite companies showing us antarctica.

Maybe the nay-sayers can answer that for a start.

We have many satellites which fly over the Poles and all we get is blank areas without any detail. There is really no reason why - or is there?
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Old 01-31-2018, 06:24 AM
 
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There is no excuse for the absolute rubbish we get from the satellite companies showing us antarctica.

Maybe the nay-sayers can answer that for a start.

We have many satellites which fly over the Poles and all we get is blank areas without any detail. There is really no reason why - or is there?
You do realize there are many areas in the world that satellite images are blacked out, that the public is not permitted to see.

Some of these are understandable, like nuclear sites, sensitive military sites, etc, but some of the areas that are blacked out are pretty bizarre!
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