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Old 05-30-2018, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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Technology has allowed us to see distant planets up close, far beyond the stars,
Say what? The only planets we can see up close are in the solar system -- and the "far beyond the stars" part makes no sense whatsoever.

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Old 05-30-2018, 10:13 PM
 
Location: PRC
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Ltdumbear, I believe that we are on a 'timeline' which represents any one of an infinite number of possibilities for the future or past. I guess jumping in time would be like moving between timelines or moving up or down those timelines.

The logic you write is too 'normal' and 3D physical world. It does not account for the strange effects which have been observed by - for example - people who have lost time in their lives. If any of them are to be believed, then it is likely that we are in a multi-dimensional universe which has multiple possibilities. The people who experience time loss have been moved out of this reality and placed in another for a while perhaps.

There are plenty of people who claim they can shift their consciousness to another place-time. Things are experienced in our 3D world which cannot be explained by science. Isn't it just possible they are other-worldly visitors?

DRob4JC - There must be a passenger list somewhere as the authorities were housing the relatives in hotels for quite a while at the time of the disappearance. Whether it is public or not, I am not sure. The Abovetopsecret.com forum thread would be the place to find that kind of information I suspect. There was a partial list of the items in the hold I seem to remember on there.

How would we tie the passenger list to a reason to "make the plane disappear" ? Proposing a link between a passenger(s) and the disappearance is a conspiracy theory in itself.

There are probably a number of threads but this is the initial one.
Beijing-bound MAS plane carrying 239 people missing as of 20 mins ago
 
Old 06-24-2018, 12:44 AM
 
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You might want to research the theory of "Space, Time Continuum " NASA has some decent information, but is copyrighted, so no links here.

In Houston, Texas....the evening DJ's discuss this theorem.

Cal Guy would probably find this interesting, and it indeed could align with his theories on the subject.
 
Old 06-24-2018, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Falls Church, Fairfax County
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"Technology has allowed us to see distant planets up close, far beyond the stars, and yet a single aircraft somewhere in 50,000 square miles can't be located?
These planets we are able to see close up, are millions of miles from earth."
This is something you say is easy but will not do. If it is so easy find the plane. You will not, proving that it is not that easy but you will have many excuses for why you cannot do this easy thing.
 
Old 06-30-2018, 07:16 AM
 
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We are not talking time travel here, we are talking about a missing aircraft.
This plane will never be found, because it is no longer on this earth, period.

Bob.
Better to say its no longer on this 'plane' of existence anymore imo
 
Old 06-30-2018, 08:06 PM
 
Location: PRC
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Needless to say that when I asked the company what it was going to do with the data it had collected, nothing was heard from them. I will try again as others can try too, but I suspect there is much value in such data and it will be sold to governments and oil companies for millions.

This of course might have been the original idea and why there was no charge. That would make sense.

Particularly if they found something odd down there...(queue the X-files music)
 
Old 07-02-2018, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Falls Church, Fairfax County
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Needless to say that when I asked the company what it was going to do with the data it had collected, nothing was heard from them. I will try again as others can try too, but I suspect there is much value in such data and it will be sold to governments and oil companies for millions.

This of course might have been the original idea and why there was no charge. That would make sense.

Particularly if they found something odd down there...(queue the X-files music)
You are assuming you could handle the data, the downloading and storage, even if they did freely give it to you, which I am not sure why they would even take the time to. Time is money.
 
Old 06-17-2019, 07:24 AM
 
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There is an excellent new article in the July issue of The Atlantic summarizing all the known info about missing flight MH370. A lot of this info may have been missed by those following the story. An excerpt:

All through the Strait of Malacca, the airplane continued to be hand-flown. It is presumed that everyone in the cabin was dead by this point. At 2:22 a.m., the Malaysian air-force radar picked up the last blip. The airplane was 230 miles northwest of Penang, heading northwest into the Andaman Sea and flying fast.

Three minutes later, at 2:25, the airplane’s satellite box suddenly returned to life. It is likely that this occurred when the full electrical system was brought back up, and that the airplane was repressurized at the same time. When the satellite box came back on, it sent a log-on request to Inmarsat; the ground station responded, and the first linkup was accomplished. Unbeknownst to anyone in the cockpit, the relevant distance and Doppler values were recorded at the ground station, later allowing the first arc to be established.
 
Old 06-17-2019, 11:41 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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There is an excellent new article in the July issue of The Atlantic summarizing all the known info about missing flight MH370. A lot of this info may have been missed by those following the story. An excerpt:

All through the Strait of Malacca, the airplane continued to be hand-flown. It is presumed that everyone in the cabin was dead by this point. At 2:22 a.m., the Malaysian air-force radar picked up the last blip. The airplane was 230 miles northwest of Penang, heading northwest into the Andaman Sea and flying fast.

Three minutes later, at 2:25, the airplane’s satellite box suddenly returned to life. It is likely that this occurred when the full electrical system was brought back up, and that the airplane was repressurized at the same time. When the satellite box came back on, it sent a log-on request to Inmarsat; the ground station responded, and the first linkup was accomplished. Unbeknownst to anyone in the cockpit, the relevant distance and Doppler values were recorded at the ground station, later allowing the first arc to be established.
And the implications of this are.....? The pilot was still alive at that point? He'd deliberately depressurized the cabin? Help me out, here.

What did the article say about the Vietnamese pilot's observations, when he was dispatched to check on the plane, still flying east or Northeast at that point?
 
Old 06-17-2019, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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There is an excellent new article in the July issue of The Atlantic summarizing all the known info about missing flight MH370. A lot of this info may have been missed by those following the story. An excerpt:

All through the Strait of Malacca, the airplane continued to be hand-flown. It is presumed that everyone in the cabin was dead by this point. At 2:22 a.m., the Malaysian air-force radar picked up the last blip. The airplane was 230 miles northwest of Penang, heading northwest into the Andaman Sea and flying fast.

Three minutes later, at 2:25, the airplane’s satellite box suddenly returned to life. It is likely that this occurred when the full electrical system was brought back up, and that the airplane was repressurized at the same time. When the satellite box came back on, it sent a log-on request to Inmarsat; the ground station responded, and the first linkup was accomplished. Unbeknownst to anyone in the cockpit, the relevant distance and Doppler values were recorded at the ground station, later allowing the first arc to be established.
And there were no dreams of alien kidnapers in that information? I love the way a vision or dream has taken this tragedy so far afield. The same supportive of that vision all believe in government conspiracy and they question every bit of evidence offered; but they have no evidence of their own and they get upset when questioned (like we should assume every dream of theirs is fact). I would rather stick to the reality of what we know in the real world and simply the plane has not been found in a very large ocean. I am sure that someday this mystery will be solved.
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