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Old 08-08-2018, 01:15 PM
 
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I guess I can't post in this forum. Every one of my comments has been deleted.

But maybe some people who do believe in the paranormal might be encouraged by this:

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Old 08-10-2018, 08:08 AM
 
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IMO it shouldn't matter how strong your belief in the paranormal is.

If you experience something that is known and documented to be a symptom of another condition or event, especially health, then you should investigate that route first.

Seeing light flashes is a very common and real symptom that can indicate ocular/neurological conditions. Please do get checked out. If everything turns out fine, the paranormal discussion can/should resume.

I don't get the people who are getting defensive because they are suggesting OP should get their health checed out
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Old 08-10-2018, 08:35 AM
 
Location: East TN
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Whenever investigating something believed to be paranormal by someone, one should start by trying to rule out other normal scientific explanations for the phenomenon. When no normal or scientific cause can be found, then one might begin to suspect the paranormal. By asking the OP to have her eyes checked, posters were simply trying to rule out a possible explanation, while also expressing concern for the OP's well-being. I don't think anyone said definitely that it COULDN'T be paranormal, just rule out vision issues for safety sake.

I've had what is called "migraine aura without headache" several times. It never looked anything like an orb, but it did present as an arc of flickering lights and black spots in my visual field that moved with my eyes when I moved my head or eyes. It persists for several minutes to over an hour or more. Only once, out of a dozen or so times I've experienced this, did I experience a headache. And it was a doozy that took me to my knees. I thought I was having a stroke! At any rate, it wasn't anything that I would have perceived as supernatural. It was plainly a problem with my eyes or the optic part of my brain.

OP also asks if it is common that seeing flashes from medical causes only happens once. Well yes, if it is the first time that you experience it. It may repeat at some time in the future. Since it only just happened the first time, you don't know that it won't repeat tomorrow, or weeks in the future. My migraine aura occurred for the first time at age 50, and then happens randomly weeks, months, or years later.
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Old 08-11-2018, 07:06 AM
 
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I’m the OP. Oh, and I’m a he. Anyway, I have no problem with the idea to get my eyes checked. I appreciate the suggestion and don’t see it as a form of ridicule. I didn’t think it could be a medical thing because I never had any eye issues or migraines. It was a one off thing but that could be medical.

The same thing happened two years ago when the entire right side of my body went numb suddenly. I googled the symptoms while it was happening and I read. That it could be a mini stroke. Pretty scary while it was happening because it all came on in a minute or two. I drove myself to the ER which may not have been the smartest thing to do but I didn’t want to waste a minute. After 6 months of tests with a neurologist, cardiologist, brain scans, mri, mra, pulmonologist, it turns out there is absolutely nothing wrong with me and they will never know what happened that one day, even though I was told such a thing always leaves evidence trails behind in the brain. Not so, apparently.

I just made an appointment with an ophthalmologist but I already know they will find absolutely nothing wrong but I am not saying it has to be a paranormal thing. I just know that it wasn’t a medical thing. I will update the thread when I get my results.
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Old 08-11-2018, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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I’m the OP. Oh, and I’m a he. Anyway, I have no problem with the idea to get my eyes checked. I appreciate the suggestion and don’t see it as a form of ridicule. I didn’t think it could be a medical thing because I never had any eye issues or migraines. It was a one off thing but that could be medical.

The same thing happened two years ago when the entire right side of my body went numb suddenly. I googled the symptoms while it was happening and I read. That it could be a mini stroke. Pretty scary while it was happening because it all came on in a minute or two. I drove myself to the ER which may not have been the smartest thing to do but I didn’t want to waste a minute. After 6 months of tests with a neurologist, cardiologist, brain scans, mri, mra, pulmonologist, it turns out there is absolutely nothing wrong with me and they will never know what happened that one day, even though I was told such a thing always leaves evidence trails behind in the brain. Not so, apparently.

I just made an appointment with an ophthalmologist but I already know they will find absolutely nothing wrong but I am not saying it has to be a paranormal thing. I just know that it wasn’t a medical thing. I will update the thread when I get my results.
Seriously, even though a skeptic, I had good intentions. I never had eye problems (other than a fishhook in the eye) when I developed the vitreous sac detachment. My wife had it a year earlier so I knew what to expect - but if it was not for her; I had never heard of it before and I would question what I was seeing.

Anyway; I am glad that you did not take offense and good luck with your examination.
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Old 08-11-2018, 12:14 PM
 
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I’m the OP. Oh, and I’m a he. Anyway, I have no problem with the idea to get my eyes checked. I appreciate the suggestion and don’t see it as a form of ridicule. I didn’t think it could be a medical thing because I never had any eye issues or migraines. It was a one off thing but that could be medical.

The same thing happened two years ago when the entire right side of my body went numb suddenly. I googled the symptoms while it was happening and I read. That it could be a mini stroke. Pretty scary while it was happening because it all came on in a minute or two. I drove myself to the ER which may not have been the smartest thing to do but I didn’t want to waste a minute. After 6 months of tests with a neurologist, cardiologist, brain scans, mri, mra, pulmonologist, it turns out there is absolutely nothing wrong with me and they will never know what happened that one day, even though I was told such a thing always leaves evidence trails behind in the brain. Not so, apparently.

I just made an appointment with an ophthalmologist but I already know they will find absolutely nothing wrong but I am not saying it has to be a paranormal thing. I just know that it wasn’t a medical thing. I will update the thread when I get my results.
This is very interesting, OP. Thanks for this update. What else can you tell us about that paralysis episode? Was there anything more to it? Any other unusual phenomena?
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Old 08-11-2018, 03:06 PM
 
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The night it happened, I put both kids to bed. Came to bed with my wife. Started using my iPad before I went to sleep. I noticed my right hand getting pins and needles which never happened before. Then, my entire arm went numb. I told my wife something was wrong so I got up and nearly fell to the floor because my leg was completely numb too. I managed to get down the stairs and googled “sudden numbness on one side of body”. Most results said mini stroke and not to ignore it. I freaked out, not knowing when this was going to stop or even spread, so I drove to the hospital at 9 pm. I could barely feel the gas pedal and the steering wheel. I wouldn’t suggest anyone else to do this. Anyway, within a half an hour, it stopped. They took blood, gave me an ekg and took an X-ray. They released me a few hours later. That was it. I was told to Ollie up with a neurologist. He sent me for MRI and MRA of brain, along with other tests. He told me something has to show up. He also told me this could happen if I had a clot so I had to see a cardiologist. They gave me an echocardiogram and they checked to see if I had a hole in my heart by pumping bubbles into me. I also had to see a pulmonologist. After all three, I was told I was a perfect specimen on paper. I was told I will never know what happened for that 30 minutes but I was assured it was not a mini stroke.

I have had a lifetime of these things. I had back surgery and it had no effect. I was going to go for a second surgery and a friend who was a pain specialist begged me not to because it would not help, he told me that shots of corisone would give me relief. I went to see him and he marked every point of my back (15) and shot cortisone in each. He said I would leave nearly pain free. Well, not one bit of relief. He said give it abfew days. Nothing. He told me to come back to next week for the same treatment. Nothing. Three more times in as many weeks. Nothing. 75 shots in 28 days and nothing. He said he never saw anything like it.

I have tons of stories like this. Actually, two years ago, I lost my appetite. No nausea, just no appetite. Lost weight fast. Went to a gastro guy. Camera in esophagus, sonograms of stomach and abdomen, colonoscopy, blood tests over the next year and I am perfect on paper. Nothing they can do. Definitely wasn’t psychosomatic.

Went to a psychotherapist for my back pain at the insistence of my then girlfriend after she said he cured someone who was burned. He somehow unblocked her mind so that it healed the burn pain. I went in. He played Indian music. Told me that I may sleep but after he is finished, I would be nearly pain free. Well, he was saying crazy crap like “imagine you are on a beach. It’s a beautiful day. You can see inside your body. Do you see that red button. That is the pain button. Flick that switch so that it turns off. Ahhh. The pain is gone.” What a nut job. I told him that I felt t(e same. He told me to play the cassette tape of the session because sometimes it takes a few Tim’s. I listened for a few weeis and nothing happened.

Because of my history, I know this will turn out to be nothing as far as my eyes are concerned, but if there really is something wrong, I do want to find out.
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Old 08-11-2018, 04:05 PM
 
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OP, the pain shrink was using something like hypnotic suggestion with you. It CAN work, but there are no guarantees. You sound like me, with hypnosis; the practitioner says something along the lines of "you're getting sleepy, now", and my mind is thinking, "The doc is saying I'm getting sleepy". lol. And I'm wondering to myself at the time, "This is supposed to have some magic effect? Just because he says I'm getting sleepy, I'm supposed to just somehow automatically get sleepy or enter an altered state?!"

We're hopeless, OP. . I hope you're not still in pain, though...?

Thanks for sharing. Yeah, all of that is mysterious. You say this or that wasn't psychosomatic, yet no medical cause was found. That would point to a psychosomatic source, unless you take outright woo-woo as a possibility. I gather you do, because you chose this sub-forum. IDK. If you were easier to hypnotize, I'd suggest trying past-life regression, to see if a cause for it came up, when you're in a regressed state. But the hypnosis probably wouldn't work. (There was one guy, in my various explorations of hypnosis, who did get magical results in terms of "putting me under", so to speak. So it does seem to be possible.) Or not even past-life regression; the cause could be back in your infancy, or even your experience in the womb. But the only way to access that info (if it's possible at all), would be via the subconscious. And your experience with the hypo-shrink shows you're not open to that.
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Old 08-11-2018, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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OP, the pain shrink was using something like hypnotic suggestion with you. It CAN work, but there are no guarantees. You sound like me, with hypnosis; the practitioner says something along the lines of "you're getting sleepy, now", and my mind is thinking, "The doc is saying I'm getting sleepy". lol. And I'm wondering to myself at the time, "This is supposed to have some magic effect? Just because he says I'm getting sleepy, I'm supposed to just somehow automatically get sleepy or enter an altered state?!"
Yep. I took a course on clinical hypnosis back when I was still a mental health professional -- hypnotherapy is used a lot for pain management and is very effective. Provided of course that the patient can be hypnotized -- about 10% of people can't be hypnotized at all, and the rest range from experiencing mild relaxation to a deep hypnotic trance.
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Old 08-11-2018, 06:11 PM
 
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It might not be UFOs...

Any "missing time"?
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