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Old 09-17-2018, 09:26 AM
 
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I may be misspelling "Alleghash," okay, but is this the BEST case of alien abduction? How are they doing now? Does the one guy still draw the pictures?

There is speculation the "Fire In The Sky" dude was drunk... Other than that possibility, that one is scary too.

These the bad aliens, these... Not the Greys
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Old 09-17-2018, 01:07 PM
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allagash_abductions
One of the guys admitted he lied and it was a hoax for monetary gain.
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Old 09-18-2018, 06:03 PM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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There is speculation the "Fire In The Sky" dude was drunk... Other than that possibility, that one is scary too.
I don't know about Travis Waltons story? He was the only one found deceptive in polygraphs out of the 6 men. Then, there's the question of prize money in National Enquirers Best UFO Story, entered after his abduction.
Never read he admitted to hoax.
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Old 09-19-2018, 09:08 AM
 
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I don't know about Travis Waltons story? He was the only one found deceptive in polygraphs out of the 6 men. Then, there's the question of prize money in National Enquirers Best UFO Story, entered after his abduction.
Never read he admitted to hoax.
Hmmmm.... There was some show, a few (maybe 5... Something like that) years ago where they re-interviewed the guy. Went back to the same clearing (forest got cut down) and had him re-track, try to remember. The interviewer said he looked "genuinely scared" to be back there

I remember reading that he may have been drinking that night, he or his friends, the hinting was that it was a whole big storey, a "not true" as a younger me would say.

Didn't they find strange things at the clearing? Or was it all determined to be fantastical nonsense.

The parallel between the two is grand, super involved, lengthy, scary abductions.. as far as I know, NOT the reptilians. (Are the Grey's supposed to be the peaceful ones, or menacing?)

Other abductions, the aliens have shown them universes, imparted knowledge they could not have known, shown them parts of language, even showed them humanoids. If they can travel at when then sure maybe it's like opening a door for them, or making a phone call.

Then there was the one where the trucker fired off a clip from a .45 into the alien and said it had "bionic strength" (it probably did nothing to the alien except made it mad)

???
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Old 09-19-2018, 09:38 AM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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Nothing at the site indicating ufo or for that matter anything else. He did have some kind of puncture mark near an elbow that couldnt be explained. UFO sighting at close range is a possibility. His abduction... iffy.
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Old 09-19-2018, 09:11 PM
 
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He was the only one found deceptive in polygraphs out of the 6 men
Not so, he has taken numerous lie-detector tests over the years and all have been positive. Where do you read any different?

As far as I am aware after reading the book and watching the movie, the only one who had an initial inconclusive test was the one who had been previously in trouble with the law but that wasn't Travis Walton. It would be natural to not trust the authorities or antagonistic towards them when you had been in trouble previously.

The trees in the clearing had enlarged tree-rings indicating increased growth on the side which was towards where the UFO was hovering. Maybe some aspect of the UFO propulsion radiated them? Trees all around the clearing were like this, the stumps of the ones cut down since can be examined.

Currently, Travis believes the aliens were not trying to harm him but were trying to repair the damage done to him by him getting too close to the craft. His perception at the time of the abduction was total fear (as would anyones be).
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Old 09-20-2018, 11:30 AM
 
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Not so, he has taken numerous lie-detector tests over the years and all have been positive. Where do you read any different?

As far as I am aware after reading the book and watching the movie, the only one who had an initial inconclusive test was the one who had been previously in trouble with the law but that wasn't Travis Walton. It would be natural to not trust the authorities or antagonistic towards them when you had been in trouble previously.

The trees in the clearing had enlarged tree-rings indicating increased growth on the side which was towards where the UFO was hovering. Maybe some aspect of the UFO propulsion radiated them? Trees all around the clearing were like this, the stumps of the ones cut down since can be examined.

Currently, Travis believes the aliens were not trying to harm him but were trying to repair the damage done to him by him getting too close to the craft. His perception at the time of the abduction was total fear (as would anyones be).
Impossible unless the UFO hovered there for years. Trees don't grow instantaneously.

Virtually all of the things you read about such things are from less than credible sources, plus it gets exaggerated and sensationalized over time ... people keep adding to the tales.
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Old 09-20-2018, 05:21 PM
 
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Impossible unless the UFO hovered there for years. Trees don't grow instantaneously
I assume there was some kind of EM or ionizing radiation which lodged in the trees on the side where the UFO hovered. Obviously the trees dont grow instantaneously, a radiation event lasts for years in the environment.

You can always claim these tree rings came from a different location. This is what they say anyway, if you dont want to believe it, then dont. Why is it so unbelievable?

There are probably images of those particular tree stumps about on the internet which show the rings enlarged on one side, and apparently over the years scientists have analysed the trees in that clearing and compared them with nearby ones not from the clearing.
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Old 09-20-2018, 05:32 PM
 
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I assume there was some kind of EM or ionizing radiation which lodged in the trees on the side where the UFO hovered. Obviously the trees dont grow instantaneously, a radiation event lasts for years in the environment.

You can always claim these tree rings came from a different location. This is what they say anyway, if you dont want to believe it, then dont. Why is it so unbelievable?

There are probably images of those particular tree stumps about on the internet which show the rings enlarged on one side, and apparently over the years scientists have analysed the trees in that clearing and compared them with nearby ones not from the clearing.
Got any links for those images?

Why wouldn't the trees have grown oddly in the Rendelsham Forest incident? Supposedly there were high levels of radiation after the event.

I'm afraid Travis is pulling our collective leg.
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Old 09-21-2018, 02:55 PM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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I assume there was some kind of EM or ionizing radiation which lodged in the trees on the side where the UFO hovered. Obviously the trees dont grow instantaneously, a radiation event lasts for years in the environment.

You can always claim these tree rings came from a different location. This is what they say anyway, if you dont want to believe it, then dont. Why is it so unbelievable?

There are probably images of those particular tree stumps about on the internet which show the rings enlarged on one side, and apparently over the years scientists have analysed the trees in that clearing and compared them with nearby ones not from the clearing.
Photographic changes in tree rings from radiation pointed out by Walton on You Tube aren't proof he was abducted, though it may confirm presence of UFO.
Thats not to say abductions haven't ever occurred. Timing here with National Enquirers contest coincidental? Sorry, I don't buy into those coincedences.
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