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Old 09-19-2018, 09:53 AM
 
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Here. This is an article written by a group of people who are:

Smarter than you

Know more about light and how it works than you

Are actually interested in understanding the truth about how the picture came to look like it does instead of grasping at those straws in order to disprove the moon landings.

If this doesn't end this silly discussion then you really do have an obsession.

https://www.history.com/news/lightin...f-moon-landing

 
Old 09-20-2018, 02:02 AM
 
Location: PRC
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Your linked article
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While moon dust reflects about 12 percent of the sunís light, the spacesuits worn by the Apollo astronauts were virtual mirrors constructed of materials that reflected 85 percent of the light that struck them, and Armstrong was bathed in full sunlight as he took Aldrinís photograph.
If I understand this correctly, they appear to be claiming that the space suits reflect everything apart from 15% of the sunlight shining on them?

If that was the case you could never get a decent picture of a man in a space suit. The film would be unable to cope with the bright light which was the astronauts suit - rather like the camera was being pointed at the Sun and everyone knows you dont point a camera into the Sun - particularly on the Moon where the sunlight is so strong. The sunlight would completely wash out the detail in the suit unless you used reflected light each time.

To show what happens to film in space. This is on Mars which has a little more of an atmosphere than the Moon. The stars are the streaks apparently. As you can see, there are quite a few cosmic radiation hits.
The following image is from a PDF NASA teaching aid for middle school grades 6-8 Space Faring - The Radiation Challenge
 
Old 09-20-2018, 03:46 AM
 
Location: Central Washington
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You obviously didn't read the article Tek_Freek posted, that explains exactly how their cameras were set up so they would work.

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The reason the stars arenít visible in the photographs, however, is that the moonís surface was so bright that the camera exposures were set to capture just the scene on the lunar surface. As the Nvidia model demonstrates, the stars would have been visible had the camera apertures been increased to let in more light. However, the historic scenes of Armstrong and Aldrin on the moon would have been completely washed out by the reflected light and never recorded
Here's a camera pointed directly at the sun, yet nothing washed out. You think that might be fake too?

 
Old 09-20-2018, 04:13 AM
 
Location: PRC
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Dozerbear this has nothing to do with what I said because firstly I quoted a piece from his link and read it. Secondly, the ONLY thing in the image of the Sun IS the Sun, which means you can apply filters or stop down the aperture if necessary. On the Moon where you are trying to capture both bright things and dark things it would be very difficult to account for the brightness without losing the detail in the shadows.
 
Old 09-20-2018, 09:17 AM
 
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For whatever reason, NASA faked some of the pictures. Who knows why they did this? You can superimpose one picture over another and the background matches perfectly even to the rocks on the ground, yet the pics were supposedly taken on different days and different locations. That's quite impossible.
 
Old 09-20-2018, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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Originally Posted by marino760 View Post
For whatever reason, NASA faked some of the pictures. Who knows why they did this? You can superimpose one picture over another and the background matches perfectly even to the rocks on the ground, yet the pics were supposedly taken on different days and different locations. That's quite impossible.
See the section titled "Identical Backgrounds" here:

Are Apollo Moon Photos Fake?
 
Old 09-20-2018, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Madison, Alabama
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Your linked article
If I understand this correctly, they appear to be claiming that the space suits reflect everything apart from 15% of the sunlight shining on them?

If that was the case you could never get a decent picture of a man in a space suit. The film would be unable to cope with the bright light which was the astronauts suit - rather like the camera was being pointed at the Sun and everyone knows you dont point a camera into the Sun - particularly on the Moon where the sunlight is so strong. The sunlight would completely wash out the detail in the suit unless you used reflected light each time.

To show what happens to film in space. This is on Mars which has a little more of an atmosphere than the Moon. The stars are the streaks apparently. As you can see, there are quite a few cosmic radiation hits.
The following image is from a PDF NASA teaching aid for middle school grades 6-8 Space Faring - The Radiation Challenge
That might be true if all or most of the light was reflected back into the camera. But the light gets scattered (yes, even in a vacuum) by the fabric. In any case the bright suit requires a faster shutter speed, along with the albedo of the moon. That's why you can't see stars in the lunar pictures.
 
Old 09-20-2018, 12:20 PM
 
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Paul — this pretty much covers it.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zhp-FTYSGe8
 
Old 09-20-2018, 01:42 PM
 
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This is going to be interesting.
 
Old 09-20-2018, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Falls Church, Fairfax County
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Originally Posted by ocpaul20 View Post
So, rather than give an answer, you pose another question. Yes, that figures.
This is what you do all the time on this forum.

Last edited by Tallysmom; 09-20-2018 at 04:43 PM.. Reason: Fixed it for you. I’m sure you didn’t mean to be rude.
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