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Old 12-26-2018, 04:09 AM
 
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I think rstevens62 indicated that the lock uses a key to unlock the door from outside, but from the inside, it's locked by twisting a knob (I think). Not sure if that means the doorknob, or if there's sort of a twist knob for a heavier lock. rstevens62 also mentioned having locked the lock from the inside, and discovering later that it was unlocked. My first guess would be to see if the lock's mechanisms are messed up. If the lock uses any springs like some padlocks do, it might be faulty and slips causing the lock to unlock. If it's a lock that works like a deadlock bolt, might be worn allowing it to occasionally slip open. Some lock have teeth that might be worn allowing it to slip open. It's hard to guess what the problem is without seeing it. But I think checking the lock first would be a lot cheaper than buying a security camera system, especially if the lock still manages to unlock itself.

You're right about locks on doors in rooms for rent. I remember people renting such rooms. Most of the houses like that were large two-story houses that were around 75-100 years old. I remember one old house with rooms for rent also had an underground bomb shelter in the yard that a guy I knew rented for $5 a month. They were probably built for large families, or used as a residence and office. I can't say that I've ever seen any houses from the '50s that had rooms for rent, or locked bedroom doors. But that's possible.

Another alternative for rstevens62 is to have a locksmith come out and take a look at it. All we know is that the problem seems to center around the lock.
I have what I think is a similar lock set on my door. There is a deadbolt that is separate from the door knob, and on the door knob, there is a centered twist button lock. Very common.
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Old 12-26-2018, 01:45 PM
 
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Are the doors, hinges, doorknobs, latch and locks the original hardware?

I can't say I've ever heard of any bedroom doors with locks requiring a key. Bathroom doors, exterior doors, yes. But on bedroom doors? That's a new one on me - not saying there aren't any like that.

The house of my parents was built in the late-1940s or early 1950s. No locks on bedroom doors. What kind of neighborhood is your house located in? Residential? The 'Burbs? Urban? Semi-commercial? Near industrial?

Any train tracks nearby, or heavy traffic?

Another question. Is the lock still in the locked position when the door is found to be open? Do you pull on the door to be sure it won't open?

Are there any other bedroom doors with locks on them?

Maybe you already said, but when did all this start happening?

I'd suggest to first inspect the door latch, both on the door and on the door frame. What I'm getting at is that, even though you lock the door with no hassle, it's still possible the locking mechanism is sticking sometimes. If you can remove the cover on the doorknob, or wherever the lock is located, squirt some lubricating or graphic oil. Give the keyhole a squirt too. It'll be a lot cheaper to do than buying a security camera system, and you'll know if that solves the problem or not.

If that doesn't help, the a security camera system might help determine what's going on, or at least give you some reassurance that things are okay.

Some people have suggested a few types of security cameras. Stay away from any cheap "as-seen-on-television". Most of those don't work as advertised. Some systems can be pretty high priced and (in addition) require a subscription to a security network. Others may need to be connected to a computer.

We have a Defender Phoenix Digital Wireless System with two cameras and a monitor. The cameras work fine during the day, and automatically engage infrared lights for clear viewing at night. It includes an 8GB SSD card for the monitor. You can transfer data by putting the SSD card into the port on your computer. The system includes 2 cameras (and mounting hardware), but you can add up to 2 more cameras if you want (I think they're around $99 each) The monitor can display up to 4 cameras.

The monitor also contains the built-in software that can let you access options and settings onscreen. It's menu driven. I bought it online from Walmart and bought a service plan as well. I get various promotions by email, and they tend to drop the price on items that you've looked at on their website. Current price is showing to be about $160. I waited until the price dropped to about $120.

There is a bit of a learning curve to setup the program to suit your needs and preferences. Also, the higher the resolution and the more cameras you add on, the faster it fills up the SSD card. You can find SSD cards with a lot more storage space, if 8GB isn't enough. You can also set it to record in color or just black and white. And you can set the time for it, either continuous, or whatever time and days you want it to operate. A manual is included. You can also set it so that it only records when something is moving (motion detection sensor). No point having it run all the time, when most of the time nothing is happening.

The cameras and monitor each require power to operate. Cables are included. I think the cameras can be used outdoors as long as they're protected from the elements. We use ours indoors only. We've had ours for about a year, and I'm still learning about other features, but generally I think it's pretty well set to do what we're most interested in having it do. I've been pretty please with it and the price was reasonable. The nice part about Walmart is if you don't like it, you can return it locally within 30 days (I think) for a refund.

I'd recommend searching the net for other brands and prices as well to help you decide what you prefer.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Defender-...3446#read-more
Both bedrooms have 'key lock' doors, they are not original, were put in about 7 years ago. Not sure why they used these type though.


The door works very well, if I open it, it will stay in whatever position I leave it, when its closed, its secure, doesnt budge or move at all. Thats why it freaked me out when this happened.


Its happened 3 times so far, first time was about a month ago.


I dont have the baby powder down anymore, it was getting too messy and I was dragging it around the house.


Ive been sleeping with a small table lamp on, and so far it hasnt happened again.
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Old 12-26-2018, 02:15 PM
 
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Both bedrooms have 'key lock' doors, they are not original, were put in about 7 years ago. Not sure why they used these type though.


The door works very well, if I open it, it will stay in whatever position I leave it, when its closed, its secure, doesnt budge or move at all. Thats why it freaked me out when this happened.


Its happened 3 times so far, first time was about a month ago.


I dont have the baby powder down anymore, it was getting too messy and I was dragging it around the house.


Ive been sleeping with a small table lamp on, and so far it hasnt happened again.
So the locks were installed around 2011, a year or so before you moved in. Do you have any idea what the reason is why they installed locks on the bedroom doors?

If you've sometimes found the lock becomes unlocked, and there have been no prints in the powder on the floor, then it sounds like the lock itself is faulty for some reason. Call or go to an actual locksmith shop and ask them what they think might be happening.
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Old 12-27-2018, 11:56 AM
 
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I think rstevens62 indicated that the lock uses a key to unlock the door from outside, but from the inside, it's locked by twisting a knob (I think). Not sure if that means the doorknob, or if there's sort of a twist knob for a heavier lock. rstevens62 also mentioned having locked the lock from the inside, and discovering later that it was unlocked. My first guess would be to see if the lock's mechanisms are messed up. If the lock uses any springs like some padlocks do, it might be faulty and slips causing the lock to unlock. If it's a lock that works like a deadlock bolt, might be worn allowing it to occasionally slip open. Some lock have teeth that might be worn allowing it to slip open. It's hard to guess what the problem is without seeing it. But I think checking the lock first would be a lot cheaper than buying a security camera system, especially if the lock still manages to unlock itself.

You're right about locks on doors in rooms for rent. I remember people renting such rooms. Most of the houses like that were large two-story houses that were around 75-100 years old. I remember one old house with rooms for rent also had an underground bomb shelter in the yard that a guy I knew rented for $5 a month. They were probably built for large families, or used as a residence and office. I can't say that I've ever seen any houses from the '50s that had rooms for rent, or locked bedroom doors. But that's possible.

Another alternative for rstevens62 is to have a locksmith come out and take a look at it. All we know is that the problem seems to center around the lock.
The knob and lock are working fine. I use it everyday, never had an issue. I want to specify though, its a regular lockable door knob, on the inside, it has a small knob in the center, that turns to lock and unlock, it requires a key on the outside. If the door is locked and you open it from the outside with a key, this turns the interior knob to the unlock position.


If the locking mechanism had malfunctioned or wasnt working right, the door would still not open on its own. This door is pretty level, If I open it, it will stay in whatever position I leave it in (doesnt move either way).


I also want to specify, my bedroom is actually 2 separate bedrooms, that was converted into a kind of large master bedroom, the previous owners just removed a section of wall, and made it like a short hallway, my bed and dresser is on one side and I have my desk, computer, oversized chair, tv, in the other, its almost like a small apartment within the house.


This is what the knob looks like on the inside, notice the little lock/unlock knob in the center, the other side is a keyed knob.
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Old 12-27-2018, 12:21 PM
 
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I took some pictures of the room/door...


First picture is the door closed, second is the way I woke up to find it and third is the section they opened up, leading to the other room.
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Old 12-27-2018, 12:27 PM
 
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The knob and lock are working fine. I use it everyday, never had an issue. I want to specify though, its a regular lockable door knob, on the inside, it has a small knob in the center, that turns to lock and unlock, it requires a key on the outside. If the door is locked and you open it from the outside with a key, this turns the interior knob to the unlock position.


If the locking mechanism had malfunctioned or wasnt working right, the door would still not open on its own. This door is pretty level, If I open it, it will stay in whatever position I leave it in (doesnt move either way).


I also want to specify, my bedroom is actually 2 separate bedrooms, that was converted into a kind of large master bedroom, the previous owners just removed a section of wall, and made it like a short hallway, my bed and dresser is on one side and I have my desk, computer, oversized chair, tv, in the other, its almost like a small apartment within the house.


This is what the knob looks like on the inside, notice the little lock/unlock knob in the center, the other side is a keyed knob.
Thatís exactly what mine is, except ours is antique brass. Ours also allows us to turn the knob and open the door, while keeping the lock engaged. You might consider having a second key in a drawer somewhere outside the bedroom in case you lock yourself out. I keep a second set in my purse, because, yeah, Iíve done this.
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Old 12-27-2018, 12:49 PM
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Things I might try:
Change the knob/lock. it's pretty easy.
Put a non-key lock on the door, a hook or slide bolt.
Put a chair in front of the door.
Hang something from the door that makes a noise when the door is moved.

I hope you figure it out!
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Old 12-28-2018, 10:09 AM
 
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Things I might try:
Change the knob/lock. it's pretty easy.
Put a non-key lock on the door, a hook or slide bolt.
Put a chair in front of the door.
Hang something from the door that makes a noise when the door is moved.

I hope you figure it out!
Yes, Im going to install a new knob set, mainly just to rule that out.


the opening is so random though, it may be months or years before it happens again.


Im thinking of something like a bell or something else that will make noise if the door is moved, another poster suggested balancing a plastic water bottle on the knob and if it moves it will fall, and make noise.
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Old 12-28-2018, 02:00 PM
 
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Yes, Im going to install a new knob set, mainly just to rule that out.


the opening is so random though, it may be months or years before it happens again.


Im thinking of something like a bell or something else that will make noise if the door is moved, another poster suggested balancing a plastic water bottle on the knob and if it moves it will fall, and make noise.
I saw the image of your door lock. We have that type of lock on all of our exterior doors. The bathroom door has the same inside lock, but a hole in the handle to access and open the locked door if necessary. I think your thoughts about installing a new doorknob set is the right idea.

A noisemaker (as mentioned), like bell for the door, sounds like a good idea until you think about how to go about setting it up. The bottle on the doorknob idea would be quite a balancing trick. The least bit of draft or vibration just from walking across the floor could possibly make it fall.

You could use an electronic device that will buzz when the door is opened and shut off when the door is closed. I think some of those use batteries.
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Old 12-28-2018, 07:30 PM
 
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Corner shops have little bells on the entrance or even something like this we have on our door. Anything really that would wake you up when it opens.
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