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Old 07-22-2019, 05:11 PM
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Pray to Jesus and God, and get some official Holy Water. Can be ordered through Lourdes in Boston at less than $10. Get some sage and burn it in ur bedroom lightly.
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Old 07-22-2019, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Olympia area (for now)
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Why not contact a local Paranormal group. There are so many of them these days, and undoubtedly several groups are located near you. They could have a look around using equipment that might pick up sights or sounds.

If that doesn’t work, then decide what the next step might be, Dr or priest or even a possible move. The local group could offer suggestions as to additional contacts if they can’t solve the issue.
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Old 07-23-2019, 09:13 AM
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Location: Sheffield, England
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This is just typical imagination at work when one is in the half-awake half-asleep state. Known as hypnogogic/hypnopompic hallucinations. For what it's worth I have a type of peripheral neuropathy and indeed when in bed trying to sleep it can feel like something nibbling your foot when you start falling to sleep, but is actually just the imagination trying to make sense of something it doesn't understand.

When you're half in "dreamland" you hallucinate an imagined "explanation" for the sensation. Just like people imagine a goblin or being sitting on their chest when they have sleep paralysis (muscles locked to not act out dreams); the mind is trying to make up an explanation.

Sometimes it can be very odd. Once I woke up, but was still half asleep as I opened my eyes to see a massive black and white cat floating in the air infront of me. I was petrified. It turned out, as I came fully awake, that all it was, was the radiator on the wall with some dark clothes draped over it. But when my mind was still half asleep but my eyes were open, it was trying to make sense of what it saw before I had woke properly, and hallucinated a giant black and white cat.

There are perfectly reasonable explanations for all these things.

As to people who claim calling to Jesus works - that's a case of confirmation bias. When you already believe in Jesus or religion, or have even "heard" that calling to Jesus might work, and you are in a self-created dream (hallucinatory) state, it will work because you believe it will work. You are always in control of your mind, so of course it will appear to work.
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Old 07-23-2019, 09:33 PM
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Pray to Jesus and God, and get some official Holy Water. Can be ordered through Lourdes in Boston at less than $10. Get some sage and burn it in ur bedroom lightly.
Did those things work for you?
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Old 07-23-2019, 11:18 PM
 
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This is just typical imagination at work when one is in the half-awake half-asleep state. Known as hypnogogic/hypnopompic hallucinations. For what it's worth I have a type of peripheral neuropathy and indeed when in bed trying to sleep it can feel like something nibbling your foot when you start falling to sleep, but is actually just the imagination trying to make sense of something it doesn't understand.

When you're half in "dreamland" you hallucinate an imagined "explanation" for the sensation. Just like people imagine a goblin or being sitting on their chest when they have sleep paralysis (muscles locked to not act out dreams); the mind is trying to make up an explanation.

Sometimes it can be very odd. Once I woke up, but was still half asleep as I opened my eyes to see a massive black and white cat floating in the air infront of me. I was petrified. It turned out, as I came fully awake, that all it was, was the radiator on the wall with some dark clothes draped over it. But when my mind was still half asleep but my eyes were open, it was trying to make sense of what it saw before I had woke properly, and hallucinated a giant black and white cat.

There are perfectly reasonable explanations for all these things.

As to people who claim calling to Jesus works - that's a case of confirmation bias. When you already believe in Jesus or religion, or have even "heard" that calling to Jesus might work, and you are in a self-created dream (hallucinatory) state, it will work because you believe it will work. You are always in control of your mind, so of course it will appear to work.

If people were always in control of our minds, we would not have dreams, nightmares, or unexplained or paranormal events such as the one the OP described. I'm sure the OP is not intentionally imagining cats chomping on his feet because he wants that to happen. The OP has implied that it is terrifying and wants it to stop.



Hypnopompics do not explain why certain things appear or do not appear in certain situations. For example by your theory, if I take a teddy bear with me to my hotel in Los Angeles and I "hallucinate" that the bear comes alive at night and massages my hair, according to you the same should happen in Boston, New York, and Miami. In reality, however, the "hallucinations" only happen in Los Angeles and have nothing to do with any bear but rather a bunch of worms. I am apt to believe there is something else going on and there is a message behind it. That is the reason some of us are attributing such events to paranormal activity.
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Old 07-24-2019, 07:51 AM
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If people were always in control of our minds, we would not have dreams, nightmares, or unexplained or paranormal events such as the one the OP described. I'm sure the OP is not intentionally imagining cats chomping on his feet because he wants that to happen. The OP has implied that it is terrifying and wants it to stop.


I didn't intend to mean that the OP intentionally imagined the experience. Sorry if it came across that way, but that wasn't what I intended to say.

You got me with quoting me saying "we are always in control of our mind". I should have put it "we can always take control of our mind".

Hallucinations and dreams can be produced by our subconscious without our control, like when my mind hallucinated a cat where one wasn't. What I had intended to say was that we can take control of these experiences when we become aware of them happening. I've done it many times.

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Hypnopompics do not explain why certain things appear or do not appear in certain situations. For example by your theory, if I take a teddy bear with me to my hotel in Los Angeles and I "hallucinate" that the bear comes alive at night and massages my hair, according to you the same should happen in Boston, New York, and Miami. In reality, however, the "hallucinations" only happen in Los Angeles and have nothing to do with any bear but rather a bunch of worms. I am apt to believe there is something else going on and there is a message behind it. That is the reason some of us are attributing such events to paranormal activity.
Actually, I don't assume that the same should happen in any location. I've had many experiences where being in different places caused me to experience different types of hallucinations or odd experiences. One example is a friends house I sometimes stay at. I always get really creepy hypnogogic hallucinations every time I sleep there, which seem totally real, and are so scary I actually asked for a radio to listen to to distract me from hearing the odd voices each time! Never happens anywhere else. But I am not going to just say it's "paranormal" - I don't know what it is and that's all I can say.

I am not doubting anyone's experiences, but I think we are attributing them to different things. The burden of proof on "paranormal" claims is enormous and insurmountable TBH. It is an easy word to ascribe something to, failing a better explanation (which there is, just not known well yet).
Tons of things are still unexplained by us humans now. But there are many things we understand now, that used to be unexplained, but are no longer, thanks to Science which is always discovering more every day. Sometimes we can't know why an experience happens, yet. But it's more honest to accept we don't know, and wait until we can know.

When humans don't understand an experience, they like to make up an explanation where none is available, yet this is a folly, and dishonest. As the explanation takes even more mind-fumbling and burden of proof than the very experience they are trying to explain, in the first place. People can feel free to attribute all sorts of weird fictional explanations to an occurrence they don't understand. Just like when we used to think Thor produced lightning when he was angry. But now, science explains why it happens. It will in future also explain things we can't explain now.

For finding a way to stop his terrifying occurrence, the OP needs to see a doctor, or a sleep specialist. There is the answer. Mediums/psychics are frauds, and there is no evidence that any of that stuff works, and I am well aware of the "techniques" they use to appear to find answers where there are none.

FWIW I've had a ton of experiences just like the OP's and worse. I've either 1.) concluded that I can't explain what caused it and leave it at that. 2.) learned to control it and it stopped.

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Old 07-24-2019, 08:58 AM
 
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If people were always in control of our minds, we would not have dreams, nightmares, or unexplained or paranormal events such as the one the OP described. I'm sure the OP is not intentionally imagining cats chomping on his feet because he wants that to happen. The OP has implied that it is terrifying and wants it to stop.



Hypnopompics do not explain why certain things appear or do not appear in certain situations. For example by your theory, if I take a teddy bear with me to my hotel in Los Angeles and I "hallucinate" that the bear comes alive at night and massages my hair, according to you the same should happen in Boston, New York, and Miami. In reality, however, the "hallucinations" only happen in Los Angeles and have nothing to do with any bear but rather a bunch of worms. I am apt to believe there is something else going on and there is a message behind it. That is the reason some of us are attributing such events to paranormal activity.

At least you didn't tell this poster to "seek professional help". I'm actually surprised you are allowed to still post here.

A sleep disorder isn't something that can be controlled in the way you envision - by moving out of a "haunted house", no more than an epileptic seizure can be controlled (not to mention, the OP didn't discuss moving his physical location). It does happen in certain situation - usually in ones non-REM sleep. It does happen under certain conditions - times of stress, and diet and alcohol all have an impact. This is a medically documented condition and the reasons need to be diagnosed, not "exorcised" away. They are labeled as hallucinations because one thinks they are real when they are only dreaming in that transitional state between wakefullness and full sleep. It's actually very common. Once again, if it's serious enough, as suggesting by the OP - he needs to see a medical doctor as as the very least it appears to be disrupting his day to day activities or it may be indicative of more serious medical issues. You, sir, with your suggestions, are doing harm to him.

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Old Yesterday, 10:25 PM
 
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I think we neeed to recognize that rather than "Let the buyer beware" we should have "Let the reader beware" because readers are going to believe what they want and with such a large forum as this there will be many different 'solutions' offered to the original problem.

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You, sir, with your suggestions, are doing harm to him.
Do not use emotional blackmail to make your own 'solution' any better than that of others by telling us we are doing him harm. We are not, we are suggesting different solutions which he can then decide which one(s) he wants to follow. That is his choice.

Asking questions accepts responsibility that you will receive some answers which are incorrect, are misleading, or are just plain wrong - as well as helpful or correct answers.

When posting on here, if you cannot use your own judgement when reading the offered solutions then you should NOT be asking the question in the first place.
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Old Today, 08:27 AM
 
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Do not use emotional blackmail to make your own 'solution' any better than that of others by telling us we are doing him harm. We are not, we are suggesting different solutions which he can then decide which one(s) he wants to follow. That is his choice.

Asking questions accepts responsibility that you will receive some answers which are incorrect, are misleading, or are just plain wrong - as well as helpful or correct answers.

When posting on here, if you cannot use your own judgement when reading the offered solutions then you should NOT be asking the question in the first place.
No no no. Your conclusion on my intention is 100% wrong. TOTALLY wrong. Dude I know there are 5 pages of posts here and it's hard to read each, but this is what I wrote in a previous thread "You guys can continue talking about sprinkling holy water and encouraging that path but the guy needs to see a doctor first..." That's the context, that's the intention.

There is no "we" that I responded to here in that last post, there is no "you" that i responded to, it doesn't involve you. There is only the one single poster that chose to respond to me with a personal insults when I suggested a medical solution first (and for that I graciously chose not to report it to a moderator for action). That last line is between myself and him only as he seems to be discouraging the possibility of a medical solution. I fully accept and acknowledge different solutions although I am insistent that he should be medically evaluated first, as were several of us in this forum. If you want to debate what should come first, let's go for it, I am still insistent on that...but don't conclude that I am not accepting of other solutions AFTER he sees a doctor.

Maybe you should address this to the other poster as he is the one that appears to be insistent that his 'solution' was better than any other and indeed attacked me when I suggested a medical approach.

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Old Today, 08:19 PM
 
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Dd714 I totally agree with your statements about seeing if a medical condition exists first before exploring paranormal/religious solutions. It is the wording I was referring to when I quoted that piece from your post. Apart from that, I have no probem with your posts at all.

All I am saying is that we should probably post our thoughts and leave it at that, so that each post carries (as far as possible) an equal weight of opinion. After that it is the OPs responsibility to choose what he wants to do and it is his responsibility to have all kinds of weird and wonderful opinions on the thread he started.
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