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Old 05-20-2022, 12:22 AM
 
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^My understanding, is that they were in an environment which allowed them both the time & money to cultivate the capabilities these people already had through further experimentation.


Not "training" just any random person to start suddenly seeing things. The government certainly has/had their own agenda for this sort of thing.
Its likely imo, we all have these abilities to some extent, but 99% of us go around with the switch turned off and not even able to turn it on. I do think with training and possibly much more, we could all put these abilities to use, but the negative side to that, citizens could not be controlled like we are today.


Think about it, if someone had powerful telekinesis, and the powers that be wanted them imprisoned, no prison on earth could contain them. Who knows, maybe we are just really young as a species, and eventually evolution will enable us to access these abilities in the future?
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Old 05-20-2022, 05:26 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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You must understand "all" of the evidence pertaining to a suicide by the pilot is nothing but speculation.
That can never be proven, just as my vision can never be proven.
There is some evidence to support the pilot suicide solution, there is no evidence to support your alien kidnapping. Do we accept the probably more likely solution or do we go for the long shot of i:7,900,000,000?

It isn't only that, but let's pretend there is more than one alien race visiting us from far, far, away. Do we attack the first alien ship we see because somebody thinks they truly saw an alien ship kidnap our people? There could be a chance that we could attack the wrong aliens and start an interstellar war that was never supposed to happen. That is why it is important to have very reliable information when we threaten other people or races. Unless we have evidence to prove the reliability of remote viewing it is safer to ignore coincidence. Everybody guesses right occasionally.
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Old 05-20-2022, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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There is some evidence to support the pilot suicide solution, there is no evidence to support your alien kidnapping. Do we accept the probably more likely solution or do we go for the long shot of i:7,900,000,000?

It isn't only that, but let's pretend there is more than one alien race visiting us from far, far, away. Do we attack the first alien ship we see because somebody thinks they truly saw an alien ship kidnap our people? There could be a chance that we could attack the wrong aliens and start an interstellar war that was never supposed to happen. That is why it is important to have very reliable information when we threaten other people or races. Unless we have evidence to prove the reliability of remote viewing it is safer to ignore coincidence. Everybody guesses right occasionally.
Pleas post the proof(beyond speculation) that pilot suicide was responsible for MH370.
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Old 05-20-2022, 12:59 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Since the secret facilities were in Siberia, and presumably we've never seen the places in person, how could they determine that the structures drawn were anywhere near accurate?
Satellite photographs.
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Old 05-21-2022, 05:23 AM
 
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Pleas post the proof(beyond speculation) that pilot suicide was responsible for MH370.
According to one investigator, the positioning of the flaps was proof the pilot or co-pilot deliberately crash-landed the plane into the Indian Ocean: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/842944...suicide-pilot/.

That said, there are many other possible causes of the crash that are far more likely than an alien kidnapping: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/628382...flight-search/. But all of that speculation is based on the evidence that has been found in the wreckage that floated ashore, radar, the pilot's home, or other real sources. It does not come from a few split-second vision that might have been a dream (since there is no way to prove it was not a dream).

If remote viewing has any redeeming qualities it must be able to provide important details to the investigators or military when needed. "It doesn't work like that" is not an acceptable answer. We would need details to either search for the right location or decide who is the guilty party. Blindly chasing all UFOs or worldly individuals or countries is a good way to start wars with the wrong people or aliens.
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Old 05-21-2022, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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According to one investigator, the positioning of the flaps was proof the pilot or co-pilot deliberately crash-landed the plane into the Indian Ocean: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/842944...suicide-pilot/.

That said, there are many other possible causes of the crash that are far more likely than an alien kidnapping: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/628382...flight-search/. But all of that speculation is based on the evidence that has been found in the wreckage that floated ashore, radar, the pilot's home, or other real sources. It does not come from a few split-second vision that might have been a dream (since there is no way to prove it was not a dream).

If remote viewing has any redeeming qualities it must be able to provide important details to the investigators or military when needed. "It doesn't work like that" is not an acceptable answer. We would need details to either search for the right location or decide who is the guilty party. Blindly chasing all UFOs or worldly individuals or countries is a good way to start wars with the wrong people or aliens.
Once again, your proof is all speculation,, no actual physical proof that the pilot was bent on committing suicide.
Also your lack of knowledge concerning rv is blatantly obvious when you demand evidence that goes beyond what a rv is showing.
Again in the hope you will either try to understand rv, and what it is, and isn't capable of, would go a long way to enlighten you, and perhaps stop your incessant demanding that an rv delve further into what it is incapable of doing.
When one is ignorant of the facts, one would do well to avoid discussion concerning those facts.
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Old 05-21-2022, 10:26 PM
 
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And that is why it is not worth our time or money! If we cannot learn useful information what good is it to anybody except those that are giving us this useless information?

A case in point is your vision of the capture of MH370 by an alien vessel. Your vision was of the plane taken into a cargo hold of the aliens. When pieces of wreckage were found you speculated that the aliens discarded what they did not want, but you did not see that. So we can ask why you did not 'see' the plane's ejection and you have answered that "it doesn't work that way". When asked if the passengers are still alive or where are they, then you give us the same response.

Supposedly our planet has a population of 7.9 billion people. To the best of my knowledge, you are the only one that saw this alien spacecraft kidnap the plane. Of course, we have had other individuals and agencies that have pointed us in the direction of a suicidal pilot or dangerous cargo or other more worldly explanations of the crash and disappearance of this fateful flight.

So how do we prove one individual is right compared to those that use science and collected evidence to support their speculations?
Ive answered this before...when it comes to THIS topic, the 'evidence' is out of our reach and that is intentional, (by those who are able to restrict access!) Why do think there was a classified version of the Congressional report? That is so ordinary citizens cannot see it.


As far as I know, no one on this board is a very high ranking Govt official or employed by one of the intelligence agencies, (but I doubt anyone like that would risk posting about what they know on a public forum like CD!) that would be a fast way to end your career instantly.


Here is another way to look at this, lets say there is a murder investigation and the police must rely on evidence/clues to find the guilty person...how effective would they be, if a great deal of the evidence was beyond their reach,or they were prohibited from accessing it? This is the same exact thing!


In short, all the 'rock solid evidence' is locked in a vault that none of us can access, or risk prison if we did manage to find some of it and post in online.
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Old 05-23-2022, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Ive answered this before...when it comes to THIS topic, the 'evidence' is out of our reach and that is intentional, (by those who are able to restrict access!) Why do think there was a classified version of the Congressional report? That is so ordinary citizens cannot see it.


As far as I know, no one on this board is a very high ranking Govt official or employed by one of the intelligence agencies, (but I doubt anyone like that would risk posting about what they know on a public forum like CD!) that would be a fast way to end your career instantly.


Here is another way to look at this, lets say there is a murder investigation and the police must rely on evidence/clues to find the guilty person...how effective would they be, if a great deal of the evidence was beyond their reach,or they were prohibited from accessing it? This is the same exact thing!


In short, all the 'rock solid evidence' is locked in a vault that none of us can access, or risk prison if we did manage to find some of it and post in online.
In other words, the Malaysian government could very well be hiding facts that it was an alien abduction.
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Old 05-23-2022, 10:30 PM
 
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In other words, the Malaysian government could very well be hiding facts that it was an alien abduction.
Absolutely, they control information, its that simple...


Give the public some rational theory on what happened to the plane, (like it crashed into the ocean), and not many people will give it any more thought, they will automatically say, "yeah, thats probably what happened".


The real question here, is what do these things want with us as individuals? do they just pick people at random or? There has to be something in common with people that get taken, but likely its something we could not recognize.
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Old 05-23-2022, 10:59 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Absolutely, they control information, its that simple...


Give the public some rational theory on what happened to the plane, (like it crashed into the ocean), and not many people will give it any more thought, they will automatically say, "yeah, thats probably what happened".


The real question here, is what do these things want with us as individuals? do they just pick people at random or? There has to be something in common with people that get taken, but likely its something we could not recognize.
Well, puzzling events have been going on for years, relating to the Bermuda triangle.
In those cases, plans disappeared without a trace, never to be seen, or heard of again.

A side note in response to Fisheye's comment that I may have been dreaming during my vision.
On the contrary, I was wide awake watching the evening news.
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