Abductees and false pregnancies (phenomena, aliens, ancient, conspiracy)

[ocpaul20]

It seems that it will become possible to detect the presence of the DNA of the male who impregnated a female, long after the baby have been born. In a video I was watching, geneticists claim this will be possible soon (presumably has been done in the lab already). It is called fetal microchimerism.

(From "Inside Blood magazine Vol 102, No.10 pp3465-3466)
Fetal Microchimerism (FMc) describes the persistence of low numbers of fetal cells in any mother after a pregnancy. It has been found to persist up to 38 years. It can be evaluated for the presence of Y chromasome DNA (from the father of the child) in 1/3rd to 1/2 of women's blood samples(PSBC & CD34+ - Peripheral blood stem cell & selected cell fractions)

It is believed that in the future this could indicate if 'alien' markers can be isolated which might indicate alien hybridization attempts or false pregnancies which mysteriously disappear after 3 months. (From The Startchild Skull Disclosure's Smoking Gun lecture by Lloyd Pye - Openminds.tv 2011? 2012?) Lloydpye.com

Lloyd Pye (1946-2013) made some interesting claims about the evolution of humans and where they came from. He wrote several books and gave lectures about it. He was convinced that humans were genetically engineered and agrees with Sitchin that the Sumerians were educated by the Anunaki who engineered us from the Ape DNA and their own. There is a problem with this normally because ape DNA has 48 chromasome and humans/Anunaki have 46 which means egg and sperm cannot match (female has 48, male has 46) so offspring will not be viable to use as the first genetic hybrid. He claims they merged 2 chromasomes into 1 to achieve this hybridisation.

He points out the numerous differences between apes and humans which indicate we cannot be evolved from apes as science suggests.

Interesting stuff.

[Mark S.]

Abductees and alien impregnations?

[sam812]

Potatoes also have 48 chromosomes so maybe the gods of the Sumerians made us using potatoes.Who is to say this didn't happen in another dimension first and the vibrations got a little wonky and boom here we are.

Either way I would like to see some real to our world proof. The problem I have always run into is anybody can write a fictional book and call it non fiction and people will believe it. We had a science fiction writer say he could makeup a religion and people would believe. He proved humans will believe almost anything and we now have a completely made up religion that now is considered real. If this can be done now how can we believe in ancient religious beliefs with beyond extraordinary tales?

[D217]

Chimerism is something that piqued my interest many years ago after I had to get a blood transfusion.






I've also heard of this happening when one twin dies in the womb and is absorbed by the other. There was a popular paternity case that brought chimeras into the news. And there have been others.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lydia_Fairchild



I don't know about aliens, but I don't believe we evolved from monkeys.

[rstevens62]

It would be interesting if these aliens are us (in maybe 5000 yrs).


Ultimately we need MORE INFORMATION...we need the Govt to release what they keep classified, this would likely steer us in the right direction. Im hoping the classified annex of that recent Congressional report gets leaked out at some point.

[ocpaul20]

There are numerous 'signs' in the differences between apes and humans which tell anyone bothering to look, that we are NOT descended from apes. We just do not have the same attributes as they do. But...of course science, religion and education tells us a different story because that's what they want us to believe.

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some points to note:

Humans dont exist genetically before 200-250,000 years ago (ya) via mitochondrial DNA from the female line
Pound for pound, primates have about 5x-8x our strength
120,000 ya a change occurred to our current human appearance

Prior to that the hominids had no foreheads, thicker bones, brow ridges, huge flat noses, upper jaw off the face, no chin, long upper arm, fingers near knees, no elevated head(we humans have a neck), triangular rib cage, large eye sockets which allow better eyesigh in the dimness, breathe, eat, swallow at same time, great noise but cannot speak/modulate due to no voicebox, fingertip/thigh bones are at least twice as thick, hole in centre smaller, more bone around it.

no human-characterized bones appear in pre-human fossil record, they are all thicker boned ape-like bones.

See the cover of Newsweek 1987 showed black adam/eve from S Africa as first specimens "The Search for Adam & Eve"

People ask why there are no Bigfoot bones or fossils found, but there are no chimpanzee bone fossils either as they live in the forest - you need mud for fossil making and the remains need to be left rather than being eaten and taken away.
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There are plenty of people who claim they have been abducted and are continuing to be abducted. It follows a family line so if you are abducted, then it is likely one or both your parents were also. John Mack, David Jacobs, and quite a few others have regressed people to find out they have been taken and experimented apon. Many people have missing time during their journeys which cannot be accounted for. Really, there is more evidence out there for this phenomena. Travis Walton was taken for 5 days and returned and has taken numerous (5+) lie detector tests.

Yes, some people have also reported missing pregnancies where they were pregnant (confirmed by their doctors) and then after about 3 months, there is no sign they were ever pregnant. That means no pregnancy-elevated hormones in their body.

The reports are out there, but of course, there are going to be some on here who will never believe this kind of thing.

[Mark S.]

Originally Posted by ocpaul20

There are numerous 'signs' in the differences between apes and humans which tell anyone bothering to look, that we are NOT descended from apes. We just do not have the same attributes as they do. But...of course science, religion and education tells us a different story because that's what they want us to believe.

You're right. It's all a Big Conspiracy!

Originally Posted by ocpaul20

Humans dont exist genetically before 200-250,000 years ago (ya) via mitochondrial DNA from the female line

Welcome to evolution! We'll be here all week. Be sure to tip your waitress.

There is no doubt that the evolutionary record still has A LOT of gaps to fill. There is also no question that despite the gaps, there is a very clear record there.

Originally Posted by ocpaul20

Pound for pound, primates have about 5x-8x our strength

"Primates" is a broad term. Size increases relative strength. Are you claiming that a capuchin monkey is stronger than an Olympic weight lifter?

Yes, a gorilla or even a chimpanzee is far stronger than a human. And a wolf is stronger than a Poodle. It doesn't mean they aren't related.

Originally Posted by ocpaul20

no human-characterized bones appear in pre-human fossil record, they are all thicker boned ape-like bones.

Again: Evolution. But you also need to remember that the fossil record is largely incomplete. Relative to the number of species that have lived and died on the planet, their fossil remains are minuscule. Genetics has revealed that modern humans have at least one ancestor that we have not yet discovered in the fossil record --- and perhaps never will.

Originally Posted by ocpaul20

The reports are out there, but of course, there are going to be some on here who will never believe this kind of thing.

"Somebody" said "something" is not conclusive evidence. If that's all you got, then the next question is: Is this person a reliable witness? If you don't know the person, how could you be expected to judge that?

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Anyone can say "I was probed by the Grays" or "the reptiloids stole my baby!" Can they offer a shred of corroborating evidence?

[D217]

Originally Posted by ocpaul20

There are numerous 'signs' in the differences between apes and humans which tell anyone bothering to look, that we are NOT descended from apes. We just do not have the same attributes as they do. But...of course science, religion and education tells us a different story because that's what they want us to believe.

This is where blood types become interesting, and I always bring up the Rh factor in here. Nobody can tell me where the Rh negative blood group came from. (???)

[temptation001]

The theory of evolution is not correct. It claims humans used to be animals, before we evolved into humans. That is not possible for several reasons. Humans were made by God, as all living creatures were. All living creatures have their own biology.

[cjseliga]

Originally Posted by D217

Nobody can tell me where the Rh negative blood group came from. (???)

A mutation in our DNA!