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Originally Posted by Martyrs5
Right! Only trained scientists can judge something that is paranormal or supernatural...like rifleman;  If you don't believe that then just ask him.
Illogical and obviously not true, and additionally, not at all what I said. If you have the intellectual honesty to go back and revisit Neil's statements, you'll find your own powers of comprehension are sorely lacking. Neil is hardly stating that eyewitness accounts are reliable, as you suggest he said, now was he.
Zippo? Neil Tyson admitted on the video clip that eyewitness testimony is used in court all the time. Quote: "..it's some of the highest form of evidence in a court of law."
He goes on to say that it's also the least reliable. That's OK; you missed it, I understand.
Someone who is startled in the middle of the night by strange lights is most likely apt to exaggerate what he saw. Tyson agrees. You disagree? Tell me you disagree. Tell me that such sightings shouldn't be reviewed or replicated, and that they most often are the result of weather balloons, actual U FOs (as in "unidentified"), or some new Air Force high speed aircraft. Or a meteorite. Or a shooting star. Or atmospherics.
When I visited the Scaled Composites factory out near Edwards AFB in the California desert in the late '80s (Google that one, Kirk...), as an engineer, I was always prompted to look up at unusual sounds in those skies, and often saw really odd looking aircraft skudding across the skies at frantic speeds. It is the home, after all, of the Lougheed Skunk Works, Scaled Composites and Edwards AFB, where they test all sorts of craft.
Were they all alien spacecraft, holding organisms of purely evil intent, as Tom Campbell has suggested in this thread are lurking about? Nope. They were experimental US Air Force stuff according to my knowledgeable host, Burt Rutan, the designer and co-flier of the round-the-world Voyager.
Don't bother, Tom. I learned a long time ago that skeptics like him like to talk but they don't want evidence. They don't even care about evidence except as to how they can twist it to their own bent of thinking.
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So.... Your advice to Tom is to not bother to learn, to listen to another's perspective or side of an argument. Goody.
Your first line here, that I
don't want evidence, is a blatant fabrication, as
"quality evidence" is precisely what I do want to see, not conjecture by frightened and untrained observers.
Yes, I am trained in testing and observing such stuff, unlike, I'm betting, you. Scientists do not let unwarranted, unsubstantiated observations from frightened untrained observers stand on their own, unchallenged. Especially when the subject is controversial and has been debunked at every instance in the past.
Then, your last line, which actually more aptly refers to you more than I, is quite telling in that you've just advised someone to take that exact
eyes-closed position.
"Don't bother, Tom" is a correct quote, no?
Tom's position is that evil is coming, and it's coming in alien spacecraft, or better yet, represented as a witch on a broom. Then he provides a video that could just as well be a paper bag with a candle inside it, as PROOF of his prediction.
And you wonder why we remain skeptical.....
But please, by all means,
DO charge on, eyes closed! Eventually you'll run into something substantial you can't ignore.
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Phunny stuff, as usual, and predicted by past observation.
