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Unread 02-23-2010, 08:43 AM
 
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Default Will Obama come clean about UFOs?

This is an old topic that seems to be getting some press lately.


YouTube - Obama, UFO Disclosure & First Contact

I am curious. How many of you still don't believe that aliens exist and why? Also, would a full disclosure of their existence from our President change your own regious beliefs? Do you feel that they (the aliens) should leave us alone? I am interested in reading some of your responses.
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Unread 02-23-2010, 08:56 AM
 
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I believe there are things in our universe we don't understand. I believe that some of the UFOs are probably military experiments our government doesn't want us to know about, but others could be natural phenomenon. But people coming to get us from outer space? I don't discount it but I don't really believe it either. But for the sake of debate, if our government really did have hard proof that aliens from outer space were "out there" what good would it do to announce it to the world? It's not like we could stop them or know their intentions towards mankind on earth. If proof was really there, passed down from president to president there must be a good reason why they didn't spill the beans. So why should Obama "come clean" when others didn't? However, our government can't keep secrets very well so I don't believe there are any beans to spill on this topic.
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Unread 02-23-2010, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Long Island, New York
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I am sure there is other life 'out-there somewhere'...but none have 'visited' us yet
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Unread 02-23-2010, 09:05 AM
 
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So why should Obama "come clean" when others didn't? However, our government can't keep secrets very well so I don't believe there are any beans to spill on this topic.
Does this mean that we already have all of the information available on this topic?
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Unread 02-23-2010, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Holly Springs
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I would bet everything I have that there is other life in the universe. I just do not believe they have visited our planet.
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Unread 02-23-2010, 09:10 AM
 
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I am sure there is other life 'out-there somewhere'...but none have 'visited' us yet
I have been helping my son with a school project on Aliens. Before this school project, I felt the same way as you. However, after doing tons of research, I am now convinced that Aliens have been engaging our race for MANY years now.

Check out these very interesting videos on ancient Egypt. Pay close attention to video 3 of 3. It shocked me when I saw it for the first time.


YouTube - Did aliens build the pyramids? (1of3)


YouTube - Did aliens build the pyramids? (2of3)


YouTube - Did aliens build the pyramids? (3of3)
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Unread 02-23-2010, 09:14 AM
 
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I am curious. How many of you still don't believe that aliens exist and why?
You ask as if we're supposed to "believe", and if we don't, we're crazy or something.

Is there life out there somewhere? Almost certainly - I can't imagine that there isn't.

Is there life out there beyond pond scum and other simple organisms? Quite possibly - I think it's very, very likely.

Is there intelligent life out there somewhere? Now we're getting into an area where the likelihood is much lower, and it's not nearly as easy of a question to answer.

Is there intelligent life out there somewhere that has not only overcome space-time to traverse the remarkably vast distances of space, but has also found us on our little tiny dust speck of a planet on the outskirts of the galaxy? Now we're into the "very improbable" area. Impossible? Of course not. But really, really unlikely.

Not that long ago, we thought that the universe was infinite. In an infinite universe, the probability that there is advanced life on another planet is 1 - a virtual guarantee. In an infinite universe, there are also an infinite number of galaxies, stars and planets. If there is any possibility at all that advanced life exists somewhere else, an infinite universe guarantees that it exists.

Our understanding of the universe has changed, though. We no longer think that the universe extends forever. There is a finite number of galaxies, stars and planets. It's an incomprehensibly large number, but it is finite. The probability of advanced life on another planet is no longer 1.

I used to be a die-hard believer in extra-terrestrial UFOs, the Roswell cover up, etc. These days, not so much. Possible? Sure. Am I convinced? No way. I've done my homework on this - watched every TV show (before and after the Internet became a consumer service), read books, done tons of research online... Heck, I even visited Area 51 a few years ago! A lot of that stuff is pretty convincing, if you're predisposed to believing anything that supports the idea. If you take a more objective look at it all, though, the "evidence" really isn't all that persuasive.

So I guess my answer to your question is that I don't necessarily not believe in "aliens," but "believing in aliens" and believing that they've visited us and there's been a cover up are two completely different things. As for the latter, I'll need to see some proof - just as with anything else - before I believe it. I'm not big on faith, and that's what the vast majority of "believers" are basing their beliefs on.
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Unread 02-23-2010, 09:29 AM
 
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I'm not big on faith, and that's what the vast majority of "believers" are basing their beliefs on.
For me, it is not a "belief". It is a fact. I feel that some folks are uncomfortable with this fact so they attempt to dismiss it as a "belief".

As for the large size of the universe, you are correct. This is a VAST universe. However, in nature, life exists with other forms of life. That is why I know we are not alone. It is highly unlikely that life spontaneously happened on the "far side of the Galaxy" without a visit from something else that was living.

FWIW, I am very much so a Christian. I just feel that our physical existence has a deeper explanation than any of us really know. My take on this "Alien" topic is that anything is possible with God (the Bible tells us this much); even if that "anything" are aliens that may have jump started our physical existence.
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Unread 02-23-2010, 09:46 AM
 
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I have the ultimate proof that aliens didn't build or help to build or were even present when the pyramids, Machu Pichu, the Easter Island heads, the Nascau "drawings" and the pre colombian pyramids were built and when the books of the bible, the khoran, the popol vu, and the ramayana were written.

Are you ready?

It's the internet.

This incredible marvel that connects us to one another on a daily basis is my proof. Do you know why?

Because it's part of the digital age. Something that, if we were to suddenly vanish as a species or as a civilization, we would have no proof of. Even if they found things like CDs and CD-ROMs and DVD-ROMS and the computers that they were used on, whoever found these things, unless they had similar devices and technology, could never understand what they were or how they were used.

These futuristic (human) explorers would be left grasping at straws and comparing a vastly different culture to their own. Suddenly, our modern sculpture, which is ancient to them, might be compared to their contemporary vehicles. Hell, given enough time, most of the things that we use and the buildings that we live in will deteriorate because of the materials that we use to build them. Suddenly we'll have run ways that are overgrown with plantlife and our decendants will assume that, since we didn't have the technology for flight, we must have had these vast, empty fields as landing stations for our "gods", the aliens.

I like to believe in the possibility of advanced technology in ancient timesbut not because it was introduced by some alien but because we were smart enough to come up with it ourselves. I trully believe that we have gone through a digital age before and that all of those materials were lost and only the most ancient or our structures have remained because of what they were made of. Just think of how much knowledge has been lost when libraries have been burned as a result of a war. Medical and technological knowledge. The first thing that a conquering nation does is try to eradicate the culture of the conquered one and so the first thing they destroy is the written word. But, even if that doesn't happen, look at what we're doing. The printed word is slowly becoming extinct and, as we digitize our records, we destroy the chance that they will be discovered if we somehow vanish from this world.

I remember seeing a documentary on how WE built the pyramids on the discovery channel a few years back and it talked about how sand was used to transport the materials and then to build the structures and thinking, "Well, I'll be damned. Why didn't I think of that? It only makes sense." Much more sense than some complex story about how aliens came down and did everything for us yet aren't here now.

How is it possible to believe that aliens would mingle among us openly during our most primitive and war torn times but not do it now when we are more likely to be more welcoming? I mean, they crash landed in Roswell, right? They make mistakes, don't they? They've never been seen?

Conspiracy theories are fun to think about and fun to watch but I think, when it comes to aliens, they are just another creation of our great imaginations.
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Unread 02-23-2010, 10:17 AM
 
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Conspiracy theories are fun to think about and fun to watch but I think, when it comes to aliens, they are just another creation of our great imaginations.
Very good post and I really mean that. This is an example of the type of "deep" discussion I wish to have on this topic.

With that said, here are a few more videos on this topic.


YouTube - UFO Disclosure May Be Imminent !! - 1 of 2


YouTube - UFO Disclosure May Be Imminent !! - 2 of 2

It has been hinted quite a few times on websites similar to this one that Obama's Disclosure Statement is going to be a 2 hour special. During that special he is even supposed to "introduce us" to one of the Alien species LOL. As crazy as all of this sounds, the Government is secretly very serious about this topic (for economic, political, and social reasons). Your thoughts please...
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