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Old 03-02-2013, 07:23 AM
 
Location: NW Philly Burbs
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Best one of all Richard Burton
Oh, I had SUCH a crush on Richard Burton when I was young!! I had the Broadway cast album from when he was in Camelot. He kind of talked/sang, and that was fine. When he spoke of the desolation of his Camelot at the end... "Each evening, from December to December, Before you drift to sleep upon your cot, Think back on all the tales that you remember... Of Camelot."
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Old 03-02-2013, 08:36 AM
 
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There's plenty of topics about accents in the US forums too. And since when are accents not interesting? Just because it doesn't interest you, doesn't mean it's not interesting to many other people, as evident by how many topics there are about accents, both UK and US. Maybe you should just stop clicking on topics that don't interest you. I guess I can't expect that kind of logic from someone whose main contribution to this forum is to berate and degrade people in attempts to dictate and define what should or should not be of interest to other people.
How many accents do you estimate there are in the UK and which ones gave birth to the North American accents? Any idea? And yes accents are interesting.
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Old 03-02-2013, 09:21 AM
 
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I don't know about accents one way or another, but I spent 3 weeks last September with a group of Brits and I loved the proper grammar and usage of the language. Words were pronounced differently but it was good to hear formal usage spoken again.
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Old 03-02-2013, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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I don't know about accents one way or another, but I spent 3 weeks last September with a group of Brits and I loved the proper grammar and usage of the language. Words were pronounced differently but it was good to hear formal usage spoken again.
Not sure if you mean Brits or English, but I think that we in the US end tend to meet a generally wealthier and more educated part of English society. The people that have money to travel. I only know what I hear from watching shows on BBC America and youtube, but it seems like a large portion of England speaks with what to me sounds like various low class accents. Maybe it's just me, but I think that they can be somewhat grating on the ears. In general I think that I prefer the southern and midlands accents over the northern ones. Except for Cockney. By the time that you get as far north as Scotland, I don't like the accent and can barely understand half of what they say.
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Old 03-02-2013, 10:59 AM
 
Location: London, UK
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Not sure if you mean Brits or English, but I think that we in the US end tend to meet a generally wealthier and more educated part of English society. The people that have money to travel. I only know what I hear from watching shows on BBC America and youtube, but it seems like a large portion of England speaks with what to me sounds like various low class accents. Maybe it's just me, but I think that they can be somewhat grating on the ears. In general I think that I prefer the southern and midlands accents over the northern ones. Except for Cockney. By the time that you get as far north as Scotland, I don't like the accent and can barely understand half of what they say.
The accents as a whole are not low class but just accents. You can have a glasgow accent but be educated it just depends if you pronouced the words properly not in the local dialect. Dialect is what determines how educated you are not accent.
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Old 03-02-2013, 11:05 AM
 
Location: London, UK
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There's plenty of topics about accents in the US forums too. And since when are accents not interesting? Just because it doesn't interest you, doesn't mean it's not interesting to many other people, as evident by how many topics there are about accents, both UK and US. Maybe you should just stop clicking on topics that don't interest you. I guess I can't expect that kind of logic from someone whose main contribution to this forum is to berate and degrade people in attempts to dictate and define what should or should not be of interest to other people.
Thank you finally someone putting her in her place about time!
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Old 03-02-2013, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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The accents as a whole are not low class but just accents. You can have a glasgow accent but be educated it just depends if you pronouced the words properly not in the local dialect. Dialect is what determines how educated you are not accent.
That's true. Maybe accent wasn't really the right word. But what about cockney? That seems generically low class. Or scouse? Perhaps there is a scouse accent that sounds educated, but I haven't heard it. I would imagine that most of the educated from Liverpool speak more conventionally. Are those dialects and not accents?
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Old 03-02-2013, 11:35 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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How many accents do you estimate there are in the UK and which ones gave birth to the North American accents? Any idea? And yes accents are interesting.
Hard to say since accents have been changing and evolving over centuries and we don't know exactly what accents sounded like before recording devices. I definitely think that New England accents are most similar to current English accents in the way that some people add R's to ends of words.
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Old 03-02-2013, 11:37 AM
 
Location: London, UK
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That's true. Maybe accent wasn't really the right word. But what about cockney? That seems generically low class. Or scouse? Perhaps there is a scouse accent that sounds educated, but I haven't heard it. I would imagine that most of the educated from Liverpool speak more conventionally. Are those dialects and not accents?
The named accents are also dialects so for example you may have a geordie accent but depending on your education/class you may not speak the dialect bluntly.
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Old 03-02-2013, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Ok, thanks and noted.
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