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Old 11-15-2013, 09:00 AM
 
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Interesting. My husband is Catholic and Scottish and had a middle class job. But he was the only one in his family of 5 kids that went to uni.
Depending on his age, that is not unusual. Not because he is Catholic but because the expansion in higher education is fairly recent. Overall participation in higher education increased from 3.4% in 1950, to 8.4% in 1970, 19.3% in 1990, 33% in 2000 to around 50% today (source: Dearing Report & Guardian article). So one in five kids would be 20%.
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Old 11-15-2013, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Gorgeous Scotland
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Depending on his age, that is not unusual. Not because he is Catholic but because the expansion in higher education is fairly recent. Overall participation in higher education increased from 3.4% in 1950, to 8.4% in 1970, 19.3% in 1990, 33% in 2000 to around 50% today (source: Dearing Report & Guardian article). So one in five kids would be 20%.
He was in uni in the late 60's - early 70's.
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Old 11-15-2013, 09:06 AM
 
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He was in uni in the late 60's - early 70's.
So his family's participation in Higher education, which was 20%, was around double the national average
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Old 11-15-2013, 10:17 AM
 
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So his family's participation in Higher education, which was 20%, was around double the national average
And he lived in a poor area of Glasgow, but went to a secondary school for talented kids. He was the only one in his scheme to go to uni. He's got a scientist's brain so he didn't want to waste it.
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Old 11-15-2013, 10:29 AM
 
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England in particular has a deep seated suspicion of Catholicism which persists to this day among some conservative folk who made not even be that religious. It's to do with centuries old history. Liverpool for instance, has quite a few people who identify we English first but who have Irish ancestry and are Catholic.
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Old 11-15-2013, 10:40 AM
 
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England in particular has a deep seated suspicion of Catholicism which persists to this day among some conservative folk who made not even be that religious. It's to do with centuries old history. Liverpool for instance, has quite a few people who identify we English first but who have Irish ancestry and are Catholic.
Could you give an example of someone who has Irish ancestry and is Catholic and identify with English first? Usually Liverpudlians are very proud of their Irish ancestry.
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Old 11-15-2013, 11:09 AM
 
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England in particular has a deep seated suspicion of Catholicism which persists to this day among some conservative folk who made not even be that religious. It's to do with centuries old history. Liverpool for instance, has quite a few people who identify we English first but who have Irish ancestry and are Catholic.
Can't say I've noticed it but I don't make a big song and dance about the fact that I'm catholic.

It has made no difference to my life or to that of my parents or siblings.
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Old 11-15-2013, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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Very interesting article about the monarchy being allowed to marry a Catholic. This guy makes an argument against it because when a non Catholic marries a Catholic, they have to swear that they will raise their children in the Catholic faith.

Why It's Absurd For Britain To Allow Catholics To Marry The Monarch - Business Insider
Does anyone really think that if Kate Middleton had been Catholic that the Brits wouldn't change the law to allow Prince George to eventually become king whether he was Anglican or Catholic?
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Old 11-15-2013, 11:31 AM
 
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And he lived in a poor area of Glasgow, but went to a secondary school for talented kids. He was the only one in his scheme to go to uni. He's got a scientist's brain so he didn't want to waste it.
He was lucky to have had that opportunity before the educational vandalism of the 1970s.

Glasgow had a number of corporation run selective schools. The High School (now private), Alan Glens, etc.. There were also very good catholic schools such as St. Aloysius (now private) and St.. Mungos. The selective schools were scrapped in favour of a comprehensive system. Unfortunately, this reduced opportunities for smart kids from poorer backgrounds.
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Old 11-15-2013, 01:21 PM
 
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There is no evidence of economic, social, educational or political discrimination against Catholics or the Irish in the UK.

that's factually incorrect , anti Catholicism is still part of the british establishment technically speaking , the monarch cannot marry a catholic let alone be one

that's a technical detail but a relevant one , I don't believe british people of irish ancestry are discriminated however in the overwhelming majority of cases
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