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You know I was going to do that myself but to be honest is all that on the dna 'level'? If it's purported to be 'scientific' I'd guess there'd be a certain amount of so-called 'error' in there too. Also, it would be nice too on sci-fi level if while they're screening the dna to one day maybe give an idea of what the environment was like .....for some reason I like old old pictures of the historic times that went before...wondering where I got that from....;-)....
I suspect a large fraction of people with colonial New England roots have ancestor involved in the Salem witch trials. When I was in Salem, I overheard someone saying he was descended from both an accuser and accused. A number of famous people can trace their roots including George Bush (his roots are from New England not the south) and Prince William.
George Bush's ancestor, John Gladding, came from the little town of Newbury, a few miles from where I live, an early Puritan settlement. John Gladding is said to have stood by and said nothing when a woman was accused of being a witch. Her husband called out to John Gladding at the trial, accusing him of saying nothing when he had actually seen her and knew she was not practicing witchcraft.
John Gladding and his family later relocated to Bristol RI, which he founded. There is a Gladding House there and when you go to the historical society it's all Gladdings. Most of his children became successful and wealthy; successors went on to own clipper ships which traveled the world bringing back treasure.
In my family history, I have a brick wall--a place where I am stuck. I have Gladdings all the way back until I hit (probably) a grandson of John Gladding. Maybe that's why I keep procrastinating on knocking down that brick wall.
There is also another --more evil, I think -- ancestor who accused a woman of being a witch. She was found not guilty but after he died, the poor woman got accused by someone else and was killed. He was born in 1598 in Bath, England, another strict Puritan of Newbury.
Prince William?
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I suspect a large fraction of people with colonial New England roots have ancestor involved in the Salem witch trials. When I was in Salem, I overheard someone saying he was descended from both an accuser and accused. A number of famous people can trace their roots including George Bush (his roots are from New England not the south) and Prince William.
I am related to both an accused and an accuser myself, and I'm not particularly special - LOL. My family has been in what is now the US since the 1640s though so we're related to all sorts of sort of famous people.
I am related to both an accused and an accuser myself, and I'm not particularly special - LOL. My family has been in what is now the US since the 1640s though so we're related to all sorts of sort of famous people.
A bit surprised since you're from the south. A few ancestors move south at some point?
A bit surprised since you're from the south. A few ancestors move south at some point?
Descendants from early New England are spread all across the country. I was surprised too when I started doing genealogy. First they spread out within New England (well, actually they created New England as they spread) and then they moved west. West was just New York or Ohio at first but later on they were the ones helping to settle the West and some branches went to the South too. Mostly it was West.
I volunteer for Find A Grave and requests for photos of the grave sites of ancestors come in from Oklahoma, Arizona, California--you name it and I've gotten a request. Their ancestor died here in maybe 1701.
That's interesting about Princess Diana's ancestry. Makes me want to trace it--somebody has already done it though, thank goodness.
The path of New England westward settlement is shown by the results in the 1856 presidential election:
The heaviest republican voting areas were mainly from New Englanders; the Mid-Atlantic shows up differently. You can see they skipped over the Hudson Valley to continue westward to western NY and the Great Lakes. I knew they moved westward, didn't think they moved south. But after a few hundred years, people move. Waves of immigrants in the next 75 years or so would muddle the pattern, introducing a new urban-rural partisan divide.
A bit surprised since you're from the south. A few ancestors move south at some point?
My family moved from northern England, Scotland and Germany to Pennsylvania and Massachusetts and Virginia in the 1600s (though one branch was French Huguenot, they had already immigrated from France to England). Some of them stayed in Pennsylvania and are still there (I have ancestors who fought on both sides of the Civil War for instance). Most moved south in the 1700s though (mostly to Virginia again) and a big chunk of them moved from PA to SC (early 1700s) and then from SC to Arkansas, Louisiana and Texas in the early 1800s.
I still have distant relatives that I am aware of in PA, VA and SC even though the bulk of our family moved to the southwestern states of AR, LA and TX long ago.
My mother's ancestors moved from New York to Illinois and Missouri in the late 1700s, to Arkansas and Louisiana in the early 1800s as well. A branch of them moved to California during the gold rush and started a hotel in San Francisco, which they owned till the 1960s.
I am sort of proud of the fact that my ancestors were always, always among the first to move into a "new" area - always on the edge of the frontier. Brave folks who apparently were made of some very strong stuff!
You know I was going to do that myself but to be honest is all that on the dna 'level'? If it's purported to be 'scientific' I'd guess there'd be a certain amount of so-called 'error' in there too. Also, it would be nice too on sci-fi level if while they're screening the dna to one day maybe give an idea of what the environment was like .....for some reason I like old old pictures of the historic times that went before...wondering where I got that from....;-)....
Far less error than any other method. The genome has just discovered that there were thousands of initial "humans", which runs against the metrocial eve. I know where I'd put my money..
Oh sorry. I wasn't clear. I'm all for the dna element in scientific analyses. I'm looking at those ads say in Natl Geo where you send your dna in to a company and they check out your dna background.
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