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... and always have been. Most of my family is of English ancestry, with some even coming over on the Mayflower, and the remainder arriving shortly before and after WWI.
One thing I've always wondered, however, is how do Brits feel about foreigners (and particularly Americans) infatuated with their country, monarchy and culture? Do you view this type of fondness in a negative light? Ironically, a century ago many of the most powerful members of the UK aristocracy dreamed of a kingdom reunified with the United States -- a kind of global Anglo super empire far exceeding even that seen at the height of Pax Britannica.
Yes, it's absurd, and I know that we've grown farther apart in the past century, but I still smile dreamily at the entire idea of reconciliation. Still, the question stands: are you bothered by Anglophiles? Even given -- in the case of Americans -- our shared history?
... and always have been. Most of my family is of English ancestry, with some even coming over on the Mayflower, and the remainder arriving shortly before and after WWI.
One thing I've always wondered, however, is how do Brits feel about foreigners (and particularly Americans) infatuated with their country, monarchy and culture? Do you view this type of fondness in a negative light? Ironically, a century ago many of the most powerful members of the UK aristocracy dreamed of a kingdom reunified with the United States -- a kind of global Anglo super empire far exceeding even that seen at the height of Pax Britannica.
Yes, it's absurd, and I know that we've grown farther apart in the past century, but I still smile dreamily at the entire idea of reconciliation. Still, the question stands: are you bothered by Anglophiles? Even given -- in the case of Americans -- our shared history?
To be honest I dont think reconciliation is needed I think that 'generally' the people of the US and the UK (and all the other Anglo nations) are pretty close already (despite the occasional bicker - which is a sign of a healthy friendship anyway).
I cant think of any reason why your fondness of the UK would be seen in a negative light by anybody? Despite the leg-pulling and occasional fall out lets be honest - I think the 'British' are pretty fond of you Americans too, and our Australian, New Zealand, Canadian, Irish, Jamaican etc 'cousins' as well.
Actually I disagree. I have visited America and they treated me the same as anyone else from any other heritage, they didn't make a fuss because I said I was from Ireland or even the UK.
I used to believe that Americans found the UK fascinating/interesting but after the last trip I would say that they find any other immigrant country just as fascinating. America isn't the same anymore, there is now a very large Spanish speaking population who are COMPLETELY different to you and me and who could CARE LESS about the UK. These people are born and bred in America so they are entitled to their opinion.. as they become more in number and the white population decreases the 'special relationship' will fade.
Not that i've lived there or anything.. but its not as close to us as you think. Its not like it used to be were it was all English immigrants. I definitely didn't get the same reception that I got in West Palm Beach anyway.
Either that or it was just because I visited Florida with loads of foreign people idk.
... and always have been. Most of my family is of English ancestry, with some even coming over on the Mayflower, and the remainder arriving shortly before and after WWI.
One thing I've always wondered, however, is how do Brits feel about foreigners (and particularly Americans) infatuated with their country, monarchy and culture? Do you view this type of fondness in a negative light? Ironically, a century ago many of the most powerful members of the UK aristocracy dreamed of a kingdom reunified with the United States -- a kind of global Anglo super empire far exceeding even that seen at the height of Pax Britannica.
Yes, it's absurd, and I know that we've grown farther apart in the past century, but I still smile dreamily at the entire idea of reconciliation. Still, the question stands: are you bothered by Anglophiles? Even given -- in the case of Americans -- our shared history?
I didn't see any evidence of this from my last visit.
Actually I disagree. I have visited America and they treated me the same as anyone else from any other heritage, they didn't make a fuss because I said I was from Ireland or even the UK.
I used to believe that Americans found the UK fascinating/interesting but after the last trip I would say that they find any other immigrant country just as fascinating. America isn't the same anymore, there is now a very large Spanish speaking population who are COMPLETELY different to you and me and who could CARE LESS about the UK. These people are born and bred in America so they are entitled to their opinion.. as they become more in number and the white population decreases the 'special relationship' will fade.
Not that i've lived there or anything.. but its not as close to us as you think. Its not like it used to be were it was all English immigrants. I definitely didn't get the same reception that I got in West Palm Beach anyway.
Either that or it was just because I visited Florida with loads of foreign people idk.
I haven't really been anywhere else for a long period..
There are certainly varients in culture here in the USA. So Florida has strong Latin American influence, which I like. But I don't think Latin Americans neccessarily feel the same cultural ties to the UK that much of the rest of USA do. They other fact ,is that Florida is FULL of Brits. There are very large expat communities here and next to Brazilians, they make up the largest tourist groups. People from the UK area dime a dozen here in Central and S Florida. It's just not that big of a deal to see UKers here.
That said, on my side of Orlando, 45 minutes from the parks, my British friends always get a bit of attention when they are here.
I only seen loads of British people in the parks. To me Florida felt very Hispanic and it actually seemed like everywhere I went they were there in LARGE numbers. (like every 5th person)
Its like they have just had a massive influx into Florida. So maybe my experiences aren't true of America, i'm not really sure but they certainly made it clear that the UK is not what they are interested in.
I only seen loads of British people in the parks. To me Florida felt very Hispanic and it actually seemed like everywhere I went they were there in LARGE numbers. (like every 5th person)
Its like they have just had a massive influx into Florida. So maybe my experiences aren't true of America, i'm not really sure but they certainly made it clear that the UK is not what they are interested in.
Yes. There is a very large hispanic population in Fl. Most of them are US citizens..
Actually I disagree. I have visited America and they treated me the same as anyone else from any other heritage, they didn't make a fuss because I said I was from Ireland or even the UK.
I used to believe that Americans found the UK fascinating/interesting but after the last trip I would say that they find any other immigrant country just as fascinating. America isn't the same anymore, there is now a very large Spanish speaking population who are COMPLETELY different to you and me and who could CARE LESS about the UK. These people are born and bred in America so they are entitled to their opinion.. as they become more in number and the white population decreases the 'special relationship' will fade.
Not that i've lived there or anything.. but its not as close to us as you think. Its not like it used to be were it was all English immigrants. I definitely didn't get the same reception that I got in West Palm Beach anyway.
Either that or it was just because I visited Florida with loads of foreign people idk.
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I only seen loads of British people in the parks. To me Florida felt very Hispanic and it actually seemed like everywhere I went they were there in LARGE numbers. (like every 5th person)
Its like they have just had a massive influx into Florida. So maybe my experiences aren't true of America, i'm not really sure but they certainly made it clear that the UK is not what they are interested in.
Why should people give you special treatment because you're from the UK? Much of the Hispanic population in the US are second or third generation and are as "American" as any other citizen - their loyalty is not your concern.
And yes, you're right about one thing, your experience in Florida is not a credible foundation to form opinions on the entire country. It would be like visiting Blackpool and forming an opinion on half of western Europe.
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