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Old 01-25-2018, 03:20 PM
 
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As far as I can gather Sinn Fein are all for the modern trends of abortion,same-sex marriage etc. Sinn Fein have an eye on votes and it seems they will go along with these matters in order to gain votes. One Catholic priest has said that on these issues the Catholic church has more in common with the DUP than Sinn Fein.

The immigrants coming into Eire and Ulster will have a bearing on what happens in the future .
Where are these immigrants coming from?
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Old 01-25-2018, 08:33 PM
 
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And then there is the money side. Would Eire be willing and able to afford NI.
Nice try at irrelevant deflection, as even if the RoI could and wanted to afford it, you and your ilk would still be opposed to it,,,,,right?
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Old 01-25-2018, 08:42 PM
 
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well i for one would welcome a dose of conservatism , i like how the DUP are not ashamed to defend family values , right now there is only one political party on this island who pro life voters in the republic could vote for ( in a united ireland fantasy scenario ) and thats the DUP , none of the parties down here are pro life , sinn fein might be in northern ireland but they flip flop on the issue down here , if the DUP joined the 21st century and realised the pope has little if any power in the world bar being a figurehead , they might even realise that catholics could happily vote for them
I have proffered this question/line of reasoning on more than one occasion in this thread.

If SF were not so politically leftist, would they be more likely to capture the hearts & minds of NI, much less the RoI?
I have asked because from an American perspective, I lean more right than anything else. So while NI politics are a different animal, I still can relate to some of SF's goals, yet find myself not even close to their liberal socialist politics regarding social issues.

Thus a view like yours about the DUP might surprise some, but not I.
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Old 01-26-2018, 03:05 AM
 
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I have proffered this question/line of reasoning on more than one occasion in this thread.

If SF were not so politically leftist, would they be more likely to capture the hearts & minds of NI, much less the RoI?
I have asked because from an American perspective, I lean more right than anything else. So while NI politics are a different animal, I still can relate to some of SF's goals, yet find myself not even close to their liberal socialist politics regarding social issues.

Thus a view like yours about the DUP might surprise some, but not I.
the DUP would appeal to plenty in the south if they were not so irrationally paranoid about some ( fifteenth century ) vatican plot to enslave europe

the DUP would appeal to lots of rural folk in the south , now of course im talking about a hypothetical where the island was united under a dublin government , the DUP would have to park the whole loyal to britain thing , thats unlikely to happen in my sons lifetime and he,s not even two
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Old 01-26-2018, 11:12 AM
 
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Nice try at irrelevant deflection, as even if the RoI could and wanted to afford it, you and your ilk would still be opposed to it,,,,,right?
wrong. I was only saying what financial 'experts' have said and a talking shop set up by the Dublin government. However, nice try
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Old 01-26-2018, 12:48 PM
 
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wrong. I was only saying what financial 'experts' have said and a talking shop set up by the Dublin government. However, nice try
You typed the words as if they were your own.

Regardless, even if the thoughts were from elsewhere, are you personally prepared to go along with a majority vote to reunite with Ireland?
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Old 01-27-2018, 08:41 AM
 
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Where are these immigrants coming from?
From many different places in Europe and Asia.
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Old 01-27-2018, 08:47 AM
 
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You typed the words as if they were your own.

Regardless, even if the thoughts were from elsewhere, are you personally prepared to go along with a majority vote to reunite with Ireland?
If the majority vote for a united Ireland then yes and that's despite if the vote was 'rigged'. Darky Hughes ..IRA said when Gerry Adams/Sinn Fein were elected he had dead people and babies voting.
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Old 01-27-2018, 08:33 PM
 
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What people should be focusing on is the economy.

The Northern Irish economy has significantly declined whilst it is the reverse for the Irish Republic.

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Manufacturing employment in the Irish Free State in 1926 accounted for 7.2% of overall employment and only 13.3% of total employment was in the broader classification of industry (consisting of manufacturing, building and construction and utilities). In contrast, the share of manufacturing employment in Northern Ireland in 1926 was over four times that of the Irish Free State.
https://www.ucd.ie/ibis/filestore/wp2006/72/72_jb.pdf

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If we go back to 1920, 80% of the industrial output of the entire island of Ireland came from the three counties centred on Belfast. This was where all Irish industry was. It was industrial and innovative; northern entrepreneurs and inventors were at the forefront of industrial innovation. By 1911, Belfast was the biggest city in Ireland, with a population of close to 400,000, which was growing rapidly. It was by far the richest part of the island.
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/o...-35865222.html
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Old 01-28-2018, 09:10 AM
 
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Celtic Paganism.
That's a grand name for an Irish theme bar somewhere in the States.
The Wolfe Tones on repeat,Irish stew and soda bread on the menu,a shamrock on the Guinness head and Shiny Seamus and Plastic Paddy on barstools imparting their knowledge about life back on the oul' sod which they visit every few years.
Bejasyus,begorrah and top o' the morning to y'all.
Saturday night at the Plastic Paddy pub.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPhckJEyU7U
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