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Brexit May Dismantle One of Bill Clinton's Major Accomplishments
The Boston Globe recently had the great good sense to send Kevin Cullen back to Ireland to write about the 20th anniversary of the Good Friday Agreement under the shadow of Brexit, a delightful side effect of which may well be the evisceration of the one completely unalloyed triumph of Bill Clinton’s time in the White House.
Over the past 30 years, no American reporter has covered these issues as well as Cullen has. He found some folks in what used to be bandit country on the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic. He even found a few of them who’d been actual bandits, and almost all of them are now anxious about the peace that came dropping so slow.
Bob has got that right, and with his user name so he should.
I like accents from both sides of the border, but the ones from the Republic are softer than those of Ulster, I rarely have trouble understanding someone from the South, but they tend to speak a bit faster up North.
Just as I think that I’ve “got” what was initially said by an Ulsterman, they’re halfway through the next sentence, and my brain is frazzled.
When I was working over there in 1974, running semi trailers of oil from Larne ferry terminal to Coolkeeragh power station, in Derry, I’d ask a question of someone, nod knowingly while they answered, then go ask someone else, as I’d missed most of it.
The difference between a Belfast accent, and one from County Cork, is about as different as a Brooklyn NY accent, and one from Charleston SC.
Here's a bit of Irish talk. He says tink and not think. He does lets rip at Adams too
Regional dialect, where I'm from, no one would ever leave out the H in the word think, nor would we pronounce the number 3 as tree, often a perception out there that everyone here struggles with the number 33.
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Regional dialect, where I'm from, no one would ever leave out the H in the word think, nor would we pronounce the number 3 as tree, often a perception out there that everyone here struggles with the number 33.
Not true
I would suspect that Americans might have got that idea after seeing Ballykissangel. There was a character in that series who did the tree and tink thing. I thought it was odd.
Well I would say like elsewhere here in GB there are regional words that can get waffled with. Anyway when I watched Question Time on the BBC last Thursday I watched the stuff from the SF mouth who was there. He was reminded by the DUP representative that that lot for all their stuff about democracy do not sit at Westminster because of the oath required. He was duly informed that there had been a couple of well known Labourites who were republican minded but still took the thing to represent their constituents. Guess what folks that smart alex SF man went quite.
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Well I would say like elsewhere here in GB there are regional words that can get waffled with. Anyway when I watched Question Time on the BBC last Thursday I watched the stuff from the SF mouth who was there. He was reminded by the DUP representative that that lot for all their stuff about democracy do not sit at Westminster because of the oath required. He was duly informed that there had been a couple of well known Labourites who were republican minded but still took the thing to represent their constituents. Guess what folks that smart alex SF man went quite.
Thanks for that Ulstermen, that was an absolute classic, that guy certainly tore Adams a new one.
There’s no way on God’s green earth that I want to take sides in a dispute that’s been running for centuries, I live in U.K., was born in U.K., and travel on a U.K. passport, but with my blood laced with strong French traces, I could never be considered a dyed in the wool patriot, but I wish U.K. to live in peace, as everywhere should.
I have two sons who served in the military during “The Troubles”, one did all his service in Germany, was captured by a beautiful fräulein, and never came back.
The other served mostly in Germany, but with a three month deployment to Northern Ireland.
My heart stood still until he went back through the gates of his regimental H.Q., in Paderborn, Germany.
Good luck, and long life to both Irelands, long may they live in peace, separately, or by a miracle, as one.
Well I would say like elsewhere here in GB there are regional words that can get waffled with. Anyway when I watched Question Time on the BBC last Thursday I watched the stuff from the SF mouth who was there. He was reminded by the DUP representative that that lot for all their stuff about democracy do not sit at Westminster because of the oath required. He was duly informed that there had been a couple of well known Labourites who were republican minded but still took the thing to represent their constituents. Guess what folks that smart alex SF man went quite.
I guess the difference is that anti-monarchist labour MPs want to change the UK system so there is no longer a monarchy, the SF MPs just want to get out of the UK altogether and don't care if the UK keeps the monarchy or not. To be fair anybody voting for SF knows that they will be basically voiceless in the UK Parliament because of the SF boycott of the House of Commons and they still vote for them understanding that, it's not a new thing.
I guess the difference is that anti-monarchist labour MPs want to change the UK system so there is no longer a monarchy, the SF MPs just want to get out of the UK altogether and don't care if the UK keeps the monarchy or not. To be fair anybody voting for SF knows that they will be basically voiceless in the UK Parliament because of the SF boycott of the House of Commons and they still vote for them understanding that, it's not a new thing.
On paper it appears that the SF votes would make an important difference but in reality no tory or marginal Labour seat would row in with them, UK press would roast them
Effectively SF votes in the commons would have zero value
Thanks for that Ulstermen, that was an absolute classic, that guy certainly tore Adams a new one.
There’s no way on God’s green earth that I want to take sides in a dispute that’s been running for centuries, I live in U.K., was born in U.K., and travel on a U.K. passport, but with my blood laced with strong French traces, I could never be considered a dyed in the wool patriot, but I wish U.K. to live in peace, as everywhere should.
I have two sons who served in the military during “The Troubles”, one did all his service in Germany, was captured by a beautiful fräulein, and never came back.
The other served mostly in Germany, but with a three month deployment to Northern Ireland.
My heart stood still until he went back through the gates of his regimental H.Q., in Paderborn, Germany.
Good luck, and long life to both Irelands, long may they live in peace, separately, or by a miracle, as one.
Cheers Jean Francois. But just to add I think the IRA killed a soldier or two in Europe. Germany might have been one of the places ?
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