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Old 12-15-2014, 12:31 AM
 
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I'm curious about Wales. It does not get as much "attention", distinctiveness less well known on this side of the Atlantic, tensions and independence movements either not obvious or very low key.

Yet, Wales has preserved its Celtic language possibly even more so than Scotland and Ireland, a similar rugged natural landscape as Scotland and Ireland . . .

So, what is it about Ireland, why its unique culture less well known outside the UK? Why is there less of a passionate movement for independence?

Can someone fill me in as to maybe the history of English-welsh relations?
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Old 12-15-2014, 01:29 AM
 
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I believe the name Wales comes from the Anglo word for foreigner.

Brittany and Cornwall would probably better qualify as forgotten Celtic nations.
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Old 12-15-2014, 02:54 AM
 
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I believe the name Wales comes from the Anglo word for foreigner.

Brittany and Cornwall would probably better qualify as forgotten Celtic nations.
That would be my take as well.
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Old 12-15-2014, 09:32 AM
 
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OK, but is there a reason behind the better relations with "the Crown" as compared to Scotland and Ireland?
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Old 12-15-2014, 10:50 AM
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English -Welsh relationships were really bad around 1250 to 1300. Especially 1277.
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Old 12-15-2014, 02:03 PM
 
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I believe the name Wales comes from the Anglo word for foreigner.

Brittany and Cornwall would probably better qualify as forgotten Celtic nations.
Or the Isle of Man
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Old 12-15-2014, 02:19 PM
 
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The Welsh got around quite a bit. My granddad used to say, "Look down a pit, anywhere in the world, and you'll find a Welshman."*

Obviously all the Anglo countries have had a fair bit of Welsh settlers and Welsh names are thick in the ground in several American states and Canadian provinces, toponyms, town names and family names such as Davis, Davies, and Jones.

*Places with a long history of coal mining, in particular, are replete with Welsh heritage. And there are at least a couple dozen Welsh societies in North America.

There are even some Welsh speakers in Patagonia.

Wales does indeed come from the Germanic word for 'foreign' or 'stranger'.

Cornwall (England) - foreign people of the Kern tribe
Wallonia (Belgium) - foreign land
Wallachia (Romania) - foreign land
Wealtheow (from Beowulf) - foreign bride
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