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^ Nice to see everyone is in a conciliatory mood. Now can we also retract those unnecessary accusations of "kipper" racism as well, just so there are no hard feelings for every party involved.
Implied insults are no different to more direct ones.
^ Nice to see everyone is in a conciliatory mood. Now can we also retract those unnecessary accusations of "kipper" racism as well, just so there are no hard feelings for every party involved.
Implied insults are no different to more direct ones.
I agree.
Calling someone a racist is a pretty serious and nasty accusation but it's one which I've noticed many people on the left are quite happy to fling around with gay abandon because it's trite and trendy.
The established political parties and the mainstream media stopped calling UKIP racist ( as well as fruitcakes and nutters etc etc ) several years ago when polls made it clear millions of people in the UK thought the parties stance on immigration and Europe was one worth considering and debating in a honest,adult way.
But some people still get it wrong. Channel 4's risible Ukip: the First 100 Days was such an amateurish attempt at smearing the Kippers even some of Labour's right-on comedian camp followers were embarrassed by it.
Sadly this election is going to be the dirtiest and nastiest of them all.
"UKIP: the First 100 Days" was complete left-wing propaganda!!!
I want UKIP to win so I can say to you all ''I told you so'' it scares me that people can overlook the parties racist, sexist, homophobic and sometimes vulgar language - yet you want to vote for them? Really? Only clueless xenophobic people vote for them.
^ Nice to see everyone is in a conciliatory mood. Now can we also retract those unnecessary accusations of "kipper" racism as well, just so there are no hard feelings for every party involved.
Implied insults are no different to more direct ones.
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Originally Posted by Roscoe Conkling
I agree.
Calling someone a racist is a pretty serious and nasty accusation but it's one which I've noticed many people on the left are quite happy to fling around with gay abandon because it's trite and trendy.
The established political parties and the mainstream media stopped calling UKIP racist ( as well as fruitcakes and nutters etc etc ) several years ago when polls made it clear millions of people in the UK thought the parties stance on immigration and Europe was one worth considering and debating in a honest,adult way.
But some people still get it wrong. Channel 4's risible Ukip: the First 100 Days was such an amateurish attempt at smearing the Kippers even some of Labour's right-on comedian camp followers were embarrassed by it.
Sadly this election is going to be the dirtiest and nastiest of them all.
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Originally Posted by bigpaul
anyone who wants to stop a real debate on immigration only has to shout "rascist".
Except that even when "those on the left" present rational points for why UKIP's positions on immigration are wrong they are often ignored in favor for mindless back and forth over racism. Go figure..
Except that even when "those on the left" present rational points for why UKIP's positions on immigration are wrong they are often ignored in favor for mindless back and forth over racism. Go figure..
All I've seen offered so far by the left so far are hasty generalizations that stem from disproportionate media scrutiny. It frightens me how easily people can be influenced by controlled media interests.
All I've seen offered so far by the left so far are hasty generalizations that stem from disproportionate media scrutiny. It frightens me how easily people can be influenced by controlled media interests.
Your post is based on the premise that UKIP are against all immigration, or that they believe that immigrants don't provide any/net benefit at all to society. It's yet another black and white mischaracterization of political views the left don't agree with.
As for the USA I know a bit about immigration as I live here for six months of the year and I can tell you the only people who want the current immigration system overhauled are the millions of Mexicans who have failed to gain entry illegally.
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