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You have to understand why there are strong nationalist movements in Scotland, Wales and NI. Look to the south east of England.
Fair enough John. They want to be in charge of their own destiny......... then go and do it. They got a vote, and for all the bluster, the majority voted to remain part of the union. As for the NI, they always vote to remain part of the union. If they vote to become part of Eire, then most English will say, "off you go then, ta ra...... don't forget to shut the door on your way out."
Fair enough John. They want to be in charge of their own destiny......... then go and do it. They got a vote, and for all the bluster, the majority voted to remain part of the union. As for the NI, they always vote to remain part of the union. If they vote to become part of Eire, then most English will say, "off you go then, ta ra...... don't forget to shut the door on your way out."
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Originally Posted by John-UK
You have to understand why there are strong nationalist movements in Scotland, Wales and NI. Look to the south east of England.
I find it understandable.
It may be understandable, I still find it childish and disrespectful. A large swath of my countrymen need to grow up.
I'm a jock myself, living in England, and I have to say the constant english-bashing and 'being hard done by' attitude coming from my country of birth is completely embarrassing. I really wish Scotland would grow up and stop the childish accusations it loves to fling south of the border.
Whilst I am glad the referendum was a 'NO', part of me wishes it had been a 'YES' so people can finally to experience that we are indeed 'better together'.
If I was English I'd be annoyed by all the Scottish grandstanding.... as a Scot I find it disrespectful and embarrassing.
Actually your views are shared by virtually every Scottish expat I know as is the realisation that if Scottish expats had had a vote and non-Scottish residents of Scotland hadn't the result would have been a more resounding No.
Likewise the ludicrous decision to allow children to vote on a matter of huge financial and economic importance when they haven't even started work.
Likewise the ludicrous decision to allow children to vote on a matter of huge financial and economic importance when they haven't even started work.
I meant to mention this Roscoe. They gave the vote to children who had no idea of what life is all about. Most of them couldn't think beyond 'Scotland the Brave.' The SNP must have thought with the 16 year old vote, they would win easily. They were wrong.
Really? As you are a Scot, I will accept your opinion on this. I am very surprised by that information tho..
This anti-english sentiment has been around forever.... I remember my Brother saying how he hates the English. I never shared that sentiment. Ever.
I think the attitude is self-perpetuating and is not grounded in anything that's real. There is a part of the Scottish psyche that is very entrenched and insular, always ready for the attack and fiercely defensive to a fault. Scotland is a small place and in some that instilled a small mind, although I think that part of the Scottish mentality is to think big, especially in regard to yourself.
Only once you leave the place do you realise your place in the world and what it really means to be a Jock.
Isn't it rooted in anti-Westminster sentiment though?
How the country is London centric?
Even I hate Westminster and London, I live in London!
well, that's what is claimed, I'm not buying it 100%....
I will say something very unpopular.... my impression of the North of the UK is that people would rather wait for handouts and sit on their bums than become pro-active and do something about their situation.
It's always the Government this and the government that. Sod the government and be enterprising, get going and change your corner of the world. Do something about it instead of sitting around all day moaning, waiting for the gyro to arrive.
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I never shared that sentiment. Ever.
