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It looks like Westminster North is swinging to conservative, if this is accurate.
Westminster North has had a consistent 2,000 majority to Labour and is not moving towards Tory. The point is that it is a very wealthy area, some the highest priced real estate in the world, and votes mainly Labour, dismissing all this nonsense that only the poor vote for Labour. The dynamic and intelligent vote Labour for sure.
Some people whether it's due to personal or creedal motivations, social ties and incentives will always remain ideologically inclined to the left even as they become more affluent or influential, contributing more to the culture.
Take your own hero Russell Brand for example, who lives in a Central London pad that costs £110,000 per year, yet takes it upon himself to be an outspoken Labour-supporter and advocate of aggressive wealth redistribution.
What's wrong with wealth redistribution? Bearing in mind wealth redistribution means rising the minimum wage, lowering taxes for Lower income people, rising taxes for Multinational companies that make profits of billions and investing in areas that need investing instead of areas that don't need it. What's wrong with more equality?
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Originally Posted by John-UK
Yep. I am clearly Middle class and a graduate, and live in a very expensive London district. I know no one like me who votes Tory - they vote LibDem and Lab. The only Tory voters I know around here are poorly educated people of working class origin who made a lot of money in buying and selling - hustlers. They think they are socially in the middle class so vote Tory and they also think they will be better of with the Tories because they were brought up that way. These people are not thinkers, more cunning than anything. When I speak to them it is not for long as the lack of education comes out.
Look at the prices of houses there and that tells you. The older working class inner-city districts of London were taken over by the middle class. London attracts young, bright, dynamic and educated people from all over. They tend not to lean to Tory at all.
I'd expect people who vote Conservative were Middle class people in rural or small town England, no?
I think the cut off point for people voting labour is the upper middle class line. Its not just working class people on social security that vote labour.
It shows the conditioning of these people for sure.
Westminster North has had a consistent 2,000 majority to Labour and is not moving towards Tory. The point is that it is a very wealthy area, some the highest priced real estate in the world, and votes mainly Labour, dismissing all this nonsense that only the poor vote for Labour. The dynamic and intelligent vote Labour for sure.
Well you can resort to bare-faced denial of the facts, but I don't think it's a very convincing way to make a point.
I don't read tabloid newspapers but watching the reviews on the News and talk shows there's a clear agenda of sorts. Its a joke that tabloid newspapers and the lies can brainwash people to vote in a certain way.
What person that isn't selfish would vote conservative? I highly doubt a compassionate, educated person would vote them back into government I wouldn't of expected them to get over 30% of votes I didn't expect them to win because I thought the UK public knew better.
Food banks, tax evasion, anti-labour propaganda, lies about the last government, scaremongering and public services cuts including closure of hospital departments. Even closures of libraries, funding people cut for community centres and a continued feel of unfairness.
These are fact that if the government came down hard on tax evasion and exploitative wages (paltry minimum wage) public spending cuts wouldn't of been harsh.
I don't read tabloid newspapers but watching the reviews on the News and talk shows there's a clear agenda of sorts. Its a joke that tabloid newspapers and the lies can brainwash people to vote in a certain way.
What person that isn't selfish would vote conservative? I highly doubt a compassionate, educated person would vote them back into government I wouldn't of expected them to get over 30% of votes I didn't expect them to win because I thought the UK public knew better.
Gotta love the caring "progressives", all the same the world over.
Tabloids brainwash the selfish uneducated conservatives. Losses aren't a reflection of the party, but of the stupidity of the electorate.
I think the cut off point for people voting labour is the upper middle class line. Its not just working class people on social security that vote labour.
If you know London you'll be aware that Camden has a high amount of Middle Class people.
If they're on social security how can they be members of the working class ?
In fact the whole term working class is redundant,so to speak,in the 21st Century.
There are the jobless,many of them habitual and workshy,and there are those in employment in various capacities which could encompass the previous terms of working and middle class.
It still amazes me that people argue about the unemployed when hundreds of thousands of East European migrants have flooded into the country in recent years and are perfectly happy with the jobs and wages they appear to have no trouble finding.
Which is why I'm glad Ian Duncan Smith is continuing in his role to reorganise the benefits system - which anyone with a job is subsidising.Maybe that's one of the reasons why so many undecideds voted Tory this time.
What's wrong with wealth redistribution? Bearing in mind wealth redistribution means rising the minimum wage, lowering taxes for Lower income people, rising taxes for Multinational companies that make profits of billions and investing in areas that need investing instead of areas that don't need it. What's wrong with more equality?
You can hear a variety of differing views about this in the link above from people from all walks of life.
In general, the view is that it doesn't work, and even as a hybrid system a la Nordic Model is not sustainable outside of small nations with demographics that are socio-economically and culturally uniform.
seems like it may slowly change to a more American pattern. Looks like the remaining Conservative areas are mainly "old money" areas or on the outskirts?
It'd be interesting if there was a way to look at only white (or non-immigrant) urban voters, to see if the trend is mainly from changing ethnic demographics or not.
seems like it may slowly change to a more American pattern. Looks like the remaining Conservative areas are mainly "old money" areas or on the outskirts?
It'd be interesting if there was a way to look at only white (or non-immigrant) urban voters, to see if the trend is mainly from changing ethnic demographics or not.
In order of influence, changing ethnic demographics followed by growing proportion disenfranchized natives. This is dispersed on top of the background noise of a hardcore demographic of lower income whites who have always voted Labour or Lib Dem.
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