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Old 07-07-2016, 05:34 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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I think Cameron's hesitation and stubbornness are causing a lot of unnecessary damage to the UK. If he didn't like the result of the referendum, he should either have stepped down immediately instead of extending that uncertainty for weeks and months, or simply declared that the government will ignore the referendum, which is not binding, anyway.
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Old 07-07-2016, 05:36 AM
 
Location: 🇬🇧 In jolly old London! 🇬🇧
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I wonder if Canadians or US Americans would be so happy once millions of Brits etc. start to move in. It would be mostly less qualified people as highly qualified people can already move almost anywhere they want today.
I think having the same/similar language, culture and so on will make us more accepted than others mate

It's a great point and question infact but I think say for arguments sake a million Brits move to North America the sheer size of North America it wouldn't be considered a problem as such as we would be spread all over if you see what I mean mate?

Compared to a million entering the UK and I'd guess that half of them would go to London .... It's a HUGE difference
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Old 07-07-2016, 06:43 AM
 
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It's a ****ing BRILLIANT IDEA mate .... Excuse my language

It's terrific honestly most Brits I know dream of moving to the above and USA ( like myself one day )
but now with the Brexit vote that's all changed and everyone wants to stay? You have your country back...
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Old 07-07-2016, 06:47 AM
 
Location: 🇬🇧 In jolly old London! 🇬🇧
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but now with the Brexit vote that's all changed and everyone wants to stay? You have your country back...
Well we don't have it back just yet mate

But I think Brits have always fancied USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand as its a nice alternative to the UK.

I'm happy at the moment here but I'd love to have an extended say in at least one of the above
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Old 07-07-2016, 07:13 AM
 
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Ahhhhhh don't wind me up mate!! LOL

But as a scaffolder I'm buggered

Your a very lucky bloke
I'm sure I could sneak in you in my luggage mate

I do know the US does a visa program for construction and skilled trade jobs.
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Old 07-07-2016, 07:45 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Europeans were really stupid when they surrendered so many national rights to the EU. Just yesterday I read that in order to circumvent national parliaments' vote on the EU-Canadian free trade agreement, the EU wants to implement it in a preliminary fashion, until all national parliaments have agreed to it, even if that never happens. And when individual nations vote against it, they can even be sued by the EU which claims to be solely responsible for trade. I can't blame Brits when they want to get out of that undemocratic dump called EU, where borderline-criminals such as Juncker involved in tax evasion schemes behave like they owned Europe.
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Old 07-07-2016, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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No. Since the VAST majority of young people (18 to 24 ), 73 percent voted to stay.
You mean the "vast majority" - about 34 percent - of young people of voting age who bothered to get out and vote.
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Old 07-07-2016, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Not according to this.

"Bruter and Harrison said they found turnout among young people to be far higher than data has so far suggested. “Young people cared and voted in very large numbers. We found turnout was very close to the national average, and much higher than in general and local elections.

“After correcting for over-reporting [people always say they vote more than they do], we found that the likely turnout of 18- to 24-year-olds was 70% – just 2.5% below the national average – and 67% for 25- to 29-year-olds."

Poll reveals young remain voters reduced to tears by Brexit result | Politics | The Guardian
That is absolutely the ONLY source I've heard reach this conclusion. Sorry, but I'm going to believe the plethora of other sources that say otherwise.
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Old 07-07-2016, 07:54 AM
 
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Young people don't really understand the long-term consequences of their actions. The brain is only fully developed by the age of 25 or so. They don't understand what it means to give up sovereignty. The more you give up, the harder it becomes to regain.

This is really an ideological issue, basically patriotism vs globalization. Holding on to the nation state which has existed since ancient Egypt, or becoming dissolved in some bigger union where over time national characteristics get lost. An idea which does not exist anywhere outside the EU. Maybe one could use the Soviet Union as a remote example, but that didn't work out well, did it. Today some former Soviet allies are basically enemies.
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Old 07-07-2016, 08:02 AM
 
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Young people don't really understand the long-term consequences of their actions. The brain is only fully developed by the age of 25 or so. They don't understand what it means to give up sovereignty. The more you give up, the harder it becomes to regain.

This is really an ideological issue, basically patriotism vs globalization. Holding on to the nation state which has existed since ancient Egypt, or becoming dissolved in some bigger union where over time national characteristics get lost. An idea which does not exist anywhere outside the EU. Maybe one could use the Soviet Union as a remote example, but that didn't work out well, did it. Today some former Soviet allies are basically enemies.
Bingo. Well stated.
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