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Old 05-19-2016, 10:45 AM
 
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My old dad used to talk about an American soldier that he met on board a U.S. ship on the way to Normandy on D-Day + 3 in 1944.
He said the guy gave him his address in Brooklyn, (in case the old man ever took us to New York), dad said that the soldier said that it was toity toyd Street, Brooklyn, New York.
People from other countries often fixate on that particular New York accent as typical even though it is confined to a small area, is rapidly dying out, and is one of the lowest prestige dialects in the US.
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Old 05-19-2016, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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People from other countries often fixate on that particular New York accent as typical even though it is confined to a small area, is rapidly dying out, and is one of the lowest prestige dialects in the US.
sounds as if a lot of Irish in there..
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Old 05-19-2016, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Yes, there are some local accents that are non rhotic, but American English (yes, I said it) is generally rhotic in nature. The vast majority of Americans pronounce their Rs.
Like Bahstan?

I used to teach my foreign students to growl like a bear when they pronounced R-words.

Tony the Tiger was a real help.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O6EcMSWRpms
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Old 05-19-2016, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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People from other countries often fixate on that particular New York accent as typical even though it is confined to a small area, is rapidly dying out, and is one of the lowest prestige dialects in the US.
But so many widely distributed American-made animated films and older cartoons rely on that Brooklyn accent. Think of Bugs Bunny. Even the Kung Fu Panda sounds like he's from Bensonhoist, unless I'm mistaken.
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Old 05-19-2016, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Like Bahstan?

I used to teach my foreign students to growl like a bear when they pronounced R-words.

Tony the Tiger was a real help.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O6EcMSWRpms
Once again - very small area of the US. Not the norm for the US in general.
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Old 05-19-2016, 01:55 PM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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My old dad used to talk about an American soldier that he met on board a U.S. ship on the way to Normandy on D-Day + 3 in 1944.
He said the guy gave him his address in Brooklyn, (in case the old man ever took us to New York), dad said that the soldier said that it was toity toyd Street, Brooklyn, New York.
You hear that Brooklyn accent in old movies and it always reminds me of gangsta talk. "He was a doity boyd." (dirty bird.)

I looked in Wikipedia for some examples. One is the Mary–marry–merry example. They would pronounce each word differently. For Mary, they say "MAY-RY." For marry, I think they say MAW-RY (sort of like that, iIIRC) and for merry??? A lot of the rest of us say them all the same.

Forest, they say, FAW-REST. Horrible, they say, HAWRIBLE.

A girl is a goil and a curl is a coil.

Says a lot of it is Italian derived!
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Old 05-19-2016, 04:22 PM
 
Location: London U.K.
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Like Bahstan?

I used to teach my foreign students to growl like a bear when they pronounced R-words.

Tony the Tiger was a real help.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O6EcMSWRpms

On the assumption that Bahstan is Beantown, (Boston), I always remember a line from a movie set there.
A guy pulls into the kerb in a beat up Chevvie, to pick up a friend, his friend says, "We won't get faaah in that caaah."
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Old 05-19-2016, 04:56 PM
 
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On the assumption that Bahstan is Beantown, (Boston), I always remember a line from a movie set there.
A guy pulls into the kerb in a beat up Chevvie, to pick up a friend, his friend says, "We won't get faaah in that caaah."
I believe it. I live about one hour from Boston but I don't talk that way at all. An old answer to someone who asks directions is, "You can't get tha-uh from he-uh.
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Old 05-19-2016, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Once again - very small area of the US. Not the norm for the US in general.
The rrrrrrr is. Compared to the UK, mind you...

In Boston, Tony is just anothah tigah.
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Old 05-19-2016, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Itinerant
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I believe it. I live about one hour from Boston but I don't talk that way at all. An old answer to someone who asks directions is, "You can't get tha-uh from he-uh.
oh...

"Pahk th' cah 'n Hah-vid yahd"

Spoken phonetically.

I've always wanted to say that to a Bostonian (don't care if they're native, or not, and an hour is in Boston by my reckoning).

Bucket List #455 check!.

Now to work on the Sofia Vergara list item far higher up the list.
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