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Might not, but given that intentions the US have just formally published probably will.
Feh!
Is everyone ignorant of how negotiations work?
You give a set of demands for agreement. Your negotiation opponent gives theres. You then sit down and determine which are acceptable and which are not. At some point you agree, to a reduced list of demands and so does your opponent.
Did ya think the US was just going to roll over and show throat? Do you think we will?
"Oh, noes, they published a list of demands", well yeah! That's how it works. I'd be far more worried if they didn't, then theres something wrong.
Another principle of negotiations is that the more you have to offer, the more the other side will normally be willing to concede on their demands and agree to your demands.
So for example if you are offering access to a market of 505m customers then you should be able to get a better deal than if you are offering access to a market of 66m customers.
You give a set of demands for agreement. Your negotiation opponent gives theres. You then sit down and determine which are acceptable and which are not. At some point you agree, to a reduced list of demands and so does your opponent.
Did ya think the US was just going to roll over and show throat? Do you think we will?
"Oh, noes, they published a list of demands", well yeah! That's how it works. I'd be far more worried if they didn't, then theres something wrong.
Your arguing that the UK with an urgent need for trade deals is on the same negotiating level as the no 1 superpower on the planet, who are currently going through a boom with an America first President?
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Your arguing that the UK with an urgent need for trade deals is on the same negotiating level as the no 1 superpower on the planet, who are currently going through a boom with an America first President?
That seems somewhat niave.
I've said before that the UK can get a trade agreement with the US. I would expect that the UK will get a better trade agreement with the next administration.
Regardless, trade negotiations usually start with both parties having their own lists of wants.
Your arguing that the UK with an urgent need for trade deals is on the same negotiating level as the no 1 superpower on the planet, who are currently going through a boom with an America first President?
That seems somewhat niave.
It would be if that's what I said, your claim is what's known as a straw man.
How a negotiation works is the same regardless of the perceived footing of the sides. Even say Eritrea approaching a negotiation isn't going to say, "hey we're completely useless, give me your demands and we'll concede", that really would be naïve.
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It would be if that's what I said, your claim is what's known as a straw man.
How a negotiation works is the same regardless of the perceived footing of the sides. Even say Eritrea approaching a negotiation isn't going to say, "hey we're completely useless, give me your demands and we'll concede", that really would be naïve.
I totally agree with you, Gungnir.
I think that the best case scenario is that after getting trade deals in place, work begins on the anglophone trade deal. Doing it right may need to wait for the next administration, which could be next week, for all we know.
Your arguing that the UK with an urgent need for trade deals is on the same negotiating level as the no 1 superpower on the planet, who are currently going through a boom with an America first President?
That seems somewhat niave.
Given the record of the current president, it seems like very childish wishful thinking. The man is an egotistical nutter.
Please remember, when President Reagan wanted to invade the British possession of Grenada, he just did it. No notice to Mrs. Thatcher or the government. And when she called to complain after the fact, she got a snig gering "Aw, gee whiz, Maggie." And Mr. Reagan was a bon-bon compared the present incumbent.
After all the ceremonial posturing for the cameras is over, the UK better be cap-in-hand because Mr. T. believes the world is his toilet paper. If you are not fawning, if you are not useful....wipe, wipe, wipe. Your PM, your flag, your monarch...wipe, wipe, wipe.
So Baboon Boris, or whomever the next PM is, had better sharpen up on the amusing monkey tricks we have seen in the parliamentary zoo over the past few months.
It would be if that's what I said, your claim is what's known as a straw man.
How a negotiation works is the same regardless of the perceived footing of the sides. Even say Eritrea approaching a negotiation isn't going to say, "hey we're completely useless, give me your demands and we'll concede", that really would be naïve.
Anyone thinking of negotiating with the UK’s government will already know for a fact they are completely useless after the last couple of years !
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Anyone thinking of negotiating with the UK’s government will already know for a fact they are completely useless after the last couple of years !
Oh come now. . .you've spent enough time here to know that our nutcase would be putty in Theresa's hands if she can talk the Queen into loaning a carriage to take him for a ride around London.
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