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The worrying thing is with a fractured Tory party, no deal exit & and a tanking economy Corbyn well get in by default.
Corbyn is a joke and no way will the UK elect an anti jewish PM and party, oh and by the way the economy wont tank, maybe a few price alterations but nothing we cant handle.
there is no way we can stay in the EU now after all the sneering and abusive remarks by Juncker, Tusk and co over the last 2 or 3 years and especially most recently and i'm surprised that even remainers aren't just as appalled by their remarks.
it may take some time but it will happen, 27 countries have to agree to an extension and i'm not sure they all will, so it may be delayed a few months but it will happen, the European elections are going to be fun if the time limit means we have to vote, we'll send 70 Farages to Brussels lets see how they like that!!
They haven’t been sneering or insulting, it’s all in your head
It’s the UK government that’s a shambles and left everyone scratching their head because they simply can’t say what they want ?
Incidentally Farage just set off on his March, he’s on a bus
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A lot of bluster! Nigel Farage leads gaggle of soggy and windswept pro-Brexiteers on 270-mile The March To Leave trek from Sunderland to London
Can you fill in the dots?
I'm had pressed to see any such need.
Jeez man, there are over 2800 posts in this thread. I'm not going to write a long post answering you. Just go back 50 pages, and read through. All you need to know, can be found within this epic thread.......
Corbyn is a joke and no way will the UK elect an anti jewish PM and party, oh and by the way the economy wont tank, maybe a few price alterations but nothing we cant handle.
I can accept the belief that in the long term the economy will work out but short term? That's lala land.
Lose 60 FTAs and single market access to 500 million and noting happens? Lol
I can accept the belief that in the long term the economy will work out but short term? That's lala land.
Lose 60 FTAs and single market access to 500 million and noting happens? Lol
We know there will be disruption. Nobody has said there won't be. Getting free of the EU, after 46 years was never going to be easy.
There is no lala land thinking here. There are massive problems in this country, and EU membership restrict us from sorting some out. Once we're free of the EU we will be independent, and can once again make our own laws, and actions enforcing them.
I know there is a price to pay, but think in the long term we will be better off free of an EU intent on closer and closer union. Plus I think they'll be glad to see the back of us. It's just the money they'll miss, not us.
We need to leave the EU, and find a different way forward for the future.
All you need to know, can be found within this epic thread.......
That's rather the point isn't it?
There's all sorts of rabble-rousing blather and even existential angst...
but I remain hard pressed to see any rational basis to describe any sort of NEED to leave the EU.
I just keep coming back to cui bono (you know what that means?)
And I don't see the benefit to it all for any UK citizen.
Maybe I missed it? Is it there?
That's rather the point isn't it?
There's all sorts of rabble-rousing blather and even existential angst...
but I remain hard pressed to see any rational basis to describe any sort of NEED to leave the EU.
I just keep coming back to cui bono (you know what that means?)
And I don't see the benefit to it all for any UK citizen.
Maybe I missed it? Is it there?
Suit yourself Mr Rational. Like I said all you need to know is within this thread. If you can't be bothered reading it, I can't be bothered telling ya.......
I've even listed why we need to leave the EU not too long ago in this thread, and the two in 'Politics.' I'm not doing it again just for you. What do you think I am, a bleedin' parrot?........
Plus anybody who comes here with a superior attitude like cui bono (you know what that means?) gets short attention from me. Get what I mean?
We know there will be disruption. Nobody has said there won't be. Getting free of the EU, after 46 years was never going to be easy.
There is no lala land thinking here. There are massive problems in this country, and EU membership restrict us from sorting some out. Once we're free of the EU we will be independent, and can once again make our own laws, and actions enforcing them.
I know there is a price to pay, but think in the long term we will be better off free of an EU intent on closer and closer union. Plus I think they'll be glad to see the back of us. It's just the money they'll miss, not us.
Then why argue? The truth is the economy will tank after Brexit, there's no point beating about the Bush.
That's rather the point isn't it?
There's all sorts of rabble-rousing blather and even existential angst...
but I remain hard pressed to see any rational basis to describe any sort of NEED to leave the EU.
I just keep coming back to cui bono (you know what that means?)
And I don't see the benefit to it all for any UK citizen.
Maybe I missed it? Is it there?
And this is why you are called Mr Rational
There is nothing at all to gain from leaving the EU but for years the media as pushed an anti EU agenda with no basis, now many people in the UK believe the tripe they’ve been fed and that the EU is run by nasty people who eat babies for breakfast.
Freedom from the baby eaters
Joking aside though, the crux of the matter is that a lot of the country will suffer terrible damage and the so called benefits that they expect will be nowhere to be seen, awful mess all round.
Then why argue? The truth is the economy will tank after Brexit, there's no point beating about the Bush.
We were told it would tank immediately after us voting to leave the EU. It didn't. We were told there would have to be an immediate tax raising budget after the vote. There wasn't.
There are things the government can do to prevent the economy tanking, and the EU won't like it. I do believe there could be a Europe wide recession after we leave. The EU want to make an example of us, to prevent any other countries getting similar ideas about leaving. So they may be prepared to hurt themselves, to hurt us. Not much we can do about that.
We want out Glokta. I believe whatever the price is, we have to pay it.
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