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I've no desire to derail this thread into a discussion of the US, or its Constitution. Your analysis while not 100% incorrect comes over as a typical, (and out of date) bitter left wing analysis. As an immigrant and 30 year holder of a US passport, I'm confident that despite its flaws, the US remains the greatest experiment in.democracy in the history of the world, and one that continually strives for "a more perfect union".
The US doesn't have a democracy. The US has minority rule, due to an ancient and outdated electoral system and unconstitutional gerrymandering by the GOP, both of which have pretty much destroyed any idea that democracy exists in the US. Pretty obvious. When you look at voting stats and who is in office.
She’s been totally boxed into a corner, the Brexiteers are demanding no deal but they are still in the minority and any threats of resignations are hollow, they are running scared of an election, labour would win now because they would guarantee a vote on any Brexit outcome and May is too stubborn to step aside.
Bercow is also siding with remainers so bringing her deal back is going to be very difficult and even if she does it’ll be voted down again with remainers smelling blood.
Tomorrow they are voting on ways forward again which in all probability will result in a second referendum or agree to her deal passing subject to a confirmative vote by the electorate, either way, it’s over.
I think most MP's in Brexit voting seats and especially Tory MP's are starting to become concerned about the grass root party, after the local Conservatives in Beaconsfield in Buckinghamshire held a vote of 'no' confidence in their local MP Dominic Grieve, a Tory moderate, who was a 'Remainer' and wanted a second vote. After all it's the local party who selects who they want to stand as their candidate in Parliamentary elections, and others MP's could also face de-selection if they don't deliver the wishes of the local party members in terms of Brexit. Lets not forget that 17.4 million voted for Brexit and a lot of constituencies were pro-Brexit, and I should imagine that even a higher preventage of grass roots tories that select and deselect MP's voted for Brexit.
In the end MP's have to answer to local party members, many of whom voted for Brexit, and which way they vote is published on-line, so some MP's and especially those in areas that voted for Brexit have to be exteremely careful how they vote, if they want to remain in Parliament. In terms of Grieve he better find a new career as his days as an MP are now numbered and he's gone as a candidate come the next election.
The Tory Grass Roots also have a say in terms of the Tory leader, meaning once May is gone a Brexiteer is the most likely option.
I think most MP's in Brexit voting seats and especially Tory MP's are starting to become concerned about the grass root party, after the local Conservatives in Beaconsfield in Buckinghamshire held a vote of 'no' confidence in their local MP Dominic Grieve, a Tory moderate, who was a 'Remainer' and wanted a second vote. After all it's the local party who selects who they want to stand as their candidate in Parliamentary elections, and others MP's could also face de-selection if they don't deliver the wishes of the local party members in terms of Brexit. Lets not forget that 17.4 million voted for Brexit and a lot of constituencies were pro-Brexit, and I should imagine that even a higher preventage of grass roots tories that select and deselect MP's voted for Brexit.
In the end MP's have to answer to local party members, many of whom voted for Brexit, and which way they vote is published on-line, so some MP's and especially those in areas that voted for Brexit have to be exteremely careful how they vote, if they want to remain in Parliament. In terms of Greive he better find a new career as his days as an MP are now numbered and he's gone come the next election.
The Tory Grass Roots also have a say in terms of the Tory leader, meaning once May is gone a Brexiteer is the most likely option.
I agree its a tricky situation but whatever they do, they are going to upset nearly 50% of their constituents.
There´s a new movement amongst the Conservatives to make sure that a Brexiteer isn't going to replace May when and if she stands down
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Tory MPs form new One Nation group in bid to block hardline Brexiteers in leadership race
She´s in a terrible position really, no matter your position on Brexit, both sides are threatening mass resignations if they don´t get their way this week, all the while Labour are rubbing their hands and Corbyns got Pickford's on speed dial.
The US doesn't have a democracy. The US has minority rule, due to an ancient and outdated electoral system and unconstitutional gerrymandering by the GOP, both of which have pretty much destroyed any idea that democracy exists in the US. Pretty obvious. When you look at voting stats and who is in office.
Have a nice day, unless of course you've made alternative plans.
She´s in a terrible position really, no matter your position on Brexit, both sides are threatening mass resignations if they don´t get their way this week, all the while Labour are rubbing their hands and Corbyns got Pickford's on speed dial.
I think the majority of constituents in many Tory and Labour seats voted for Brexit, however at a grass root level the local Tories are far more passionate about Brexit and further MP's could be de-selected if they don't tow the line.
May won't fight another election, she's standing down in the Summer, so fighting an election would be pointless. Corbyn could be facing someone far more political astute that May, whose previous manifesto and election campaign was a disaster.
I think the majority of constituents in many Tory and Labour seats voted for Brexit, however at a grass root level the local Tories are far more passionate about Brexit and further MP's could be de-selected if they don't tow the line.
May won't fight another election, she's standing down in the Summer, so fighting an election would be pointless. Corbyn could be facing someone far more political astute that May, whose previous manifesto and election campaign was a disaster.
The frightening thing now is if there was an election, Corbyn will probably get in, that´s how bad the UK´s politics are now !
In no other universe could he actually get in power with his policy's and history but Brexit might actually be his gold card
The frightening thing now is if there was an election, Corbyn will probably get in, that´s how bad the UK´s politics are now !
In no other universe could he actually get in power with his policy's and history but Brexit might actually be his gold card
Good.
Rather him than Johnson, Gove or that psychopath IDS
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