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View Poll Results: Will the UK disintegrate?
Yes 158 33.47%
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Old 12-05-2017, 01:04 PM
 
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Not just the DUP, but the Irish government as well. Nothing but trouble for as long as anybody on the mainland can remember.
Relax.It's early days.
The Irish are defending their position as everyone else is in the Brexit jamboree.
If you think this is bad wait until the trade negotiations start.That's going to be a real bunfight.
Rather like the final day of the 2nd Test tomorrow it's time for calm heads,clear thinking and no histrionics.
Paddy is only doing what we would do in his circumstances.
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Old 12-05-2017, 01:42 PM
 
Location: England
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Relax.It's early days.
The Irish are defending their position as everyone else is in the Brexit jamboree.
If you think this is bad wait until the trade negotiations start.That's going to be a real bunfight.
Rather like the final day of the 2nd Test tomorrow it's time for calm heads,clear thinking and no histrionics.
Paddy is only doing what we would do in his circumstances.
We'll see Roscoe, we'll see. I just get the feeling the English are going to get shafted here. We'll end up carrying the can, and paying the bills for this fiasco.

We have a useless PM, blowing in the wind, and being prepared to be hung out to dry.

I wouldn't be surprised by a snap General Election in the New Year, and that idiot Corbyn, and his moll Diane Abbott, voted in to government by the stupid kids with the memories of gnats. Just gimme some free college educazion.........I wanna free media studies degree.......

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Old 12-05-2017, 02:41 PM
 
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Not just the DUP, but the Irish government as well. Nothing but trouble for as long as anybody on the mainland can remember.

Same auld Dave. Aye get rid of us we know where we stand. We've went though it before and we know Downing St and others would be glad to be rid of us
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Old 12-05-2017, 02:56 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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Same auld Dave. Aye get rid of us we know where we stand. We've went though it before and we know Downing St and others would be glad to be rid of us
Maybe if you weren't such pains in the behind we wouldn't want to be rid of any of you.
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Old 12-05-2017, 03:15 PM
 
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Maybe if you weren't such pains in the behind we wouldn't want to be rid of any of you.
Terrible sorry about that. Will try and be a good boy In the meantime here's a time when we came in handy. But maybe we were a pain in the behind then too.

Canada's contribution to the war effort. Volunteer activities of Canadians in London. The speaker's work in the Ministry of Aircraft Production, and with Lord Beaverbrook. The speaker's work as industrial adviser to the Minister of Commerce in Northern Ireland. The Government of Northern Ireland. The production of munitions and the problems in connection with the utilization of Ulster's capacity as a concern of Ulster's local Government. The connecting link between the supply ministries in London and the Minister of Commerce with whom the speaker worked. The strategic position of Ulster. The importance of the naval bases at Belfast and Londonderry and the Ulster aerodromes and sea plane bases in giving naval protection and air cover to convoys to and from the Clyde and the Mersey. Some words from Winston Churchill about Ulster's position. No fear of Ulster being cast out from the United Kingdom. Canadian and American soldiers coming under the protection of Ulster. Ulster as the "Gibraltar of the North." Ulster peopled by men who are steadfast and loyal and true.

The Strategic Position of Ulster: The Empire Club Addresses

CHURCHILL SPEAKS
By the grace of God Ulster stood a faithful sentinel”

“That was a dark and dangerous hour. We were alone, and had to face single-handed the full fury of the German attack raining down death and destruction on our cities and, still more deadly, seeking to strangle our life by cutting off the entry to our ports of the ships which brought us our food and the weapons we so sorely needed.

Only one great channel remained open. It remained open because loyal Ulster gave us the full use of Northern Irish ports and waters, and thus ensured the free working of the Clyde and the Mersey.

But for the loyalty of Northern Ireland we should have been confronted with slavery and death and the light which now shines so strongly throughout the world would have bee quenched.

The bonds of affection between Great Britain and the people of Northern Ireland have been tempered by fire and are now, I believe, unbreakable.”

“We have travelled a hard and darksome road to victory in Europe, and at every turn in this memorable journey the loyalty and courage of Ulster have gleamed before the eyes of men.

The stand of the Government and People of Northern Ireland for the unity of the British Empire and Commonwealth and for the great cause of freedom, for which we all risked our survival will never be forgotten by Great Britain. A strong loyal Ulster will always be vital to the security and well-being of our whole Empire and Commonwealth”

Second World War in Northern Ireland - Information - Other
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Old 12-05-2017, 11:22 PM
 
Location: England
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Same auld Dave. Aye get rid of us we know where we stand. We've went though it before and we know Downing St and others would be glad to be rid of us
You like to bang the drum for Ulster. You list times of support for the United Kingdom. But, times change..... you know? Time and tide, waits for no man.

How do you think the English feel about what has been done to our country? How do you feel my Uncle, a prisoner of the Germans for five years in the war felt to see his country invaded by foreigners after his sacrifice? My wife's dad, 18 months in hospital after being badly injured in the war? His brother a prisoner of the Japanese for three long years? How do you think they felt seeing this once great country sold down the river?

We English watched your 'troubles' for 30 years. Then, in recent years, the bellyaching of the Scots. We're tired of it Ulsterman. Just real tired.

Now we have the DUP tail wagging the Tory government dog. The English voted by a large majority to leave the EU. We want out, and truly, we are tired of the Irish, and their problems living with each other. You can post patriotic videos, and sing the praises of past Ulster support for the UK all you want, it makes no difference.

We are aching for a leader who will put the vast majority English first, just for a change. It's time for some ruthlessness, and concern for the folks who are the vast majority of these islands. We need to focus on getting out of the EU, and show some backbone. The French know how to look out for their own self interest. Time we did the same.
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Old 12-06-2017, 02:31 AM
 
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Not just the DUP, but the Irish government as well. Nothing but trouble for as long as anybody on the mainland can remember.
its funny how the DUP seem to think the irish government would have the power to dictate to the british government as to whom to should be informed about any deals re_ brexit

the way the DUP are spinning it ( for their supporters of course ) is that the dublin government told teresa may to keep the DUP in the dark about developments , as if
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Old 12-06-2017, 02:34 AM
 
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Maybe if you weren't such pains in the behind we wouldn't want to be rid of any of you.
they can only be one way , while not without good qualities , an incredibly inflexible and one dimensional bunch for the most part and proud of it to boot
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Old 12-06-2017, 02:35 AM
 
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Terrible sorry about that. Will try and be a good boy In the meantime here's a time when we came in handy. But maybe we were a pain in the behind then too.

Canada's contribution to the war effort. Volunteer activities of Canadians in London. The speaker's work in the Ministry of Aircraft Production, and with Lord Beaverbrook. The speaker's work as industrial adviser to the Minister of Commerce in Northern Ireland. The Government of Northern Ireland. The production of munitions and the problems in connection with the utilization of Ulster's capacity as a concern of Ulster's local Government. The connecting link between the supply ministries in London and the Minister of Commerce with whom the speaker worked. The strategic position of Ulster. The importance of the naval bases at Belfast and Londonderry and the Ulster aerodromes and sea plane bases in giving naval protection and air cover to convoys to and from the Clyde and the Mersey. Some words from Winston Churchill about Ulster's position. No fear of Ulster being cast out from the United Kingdom. Canadian and American soldiers coming under the protection of Ulster. Ulster as the "Gibraltar of the North." Ulster peopled by men who are steadfast and loyal and true.

The Strategic Position of Ulster: The Empire Club Addresses

CHURCHILL SPEAKS
By the grace of God Ulster stood a faithful sentinel”

“That was a dark and dangerous hour. We were alone, and had to face single-handed the full fury of the German attack raining down death and destruction on our cities and, still more deadly, seeking to strangle our life by cutting off the entry to our ports of the ships which brought us our food and the weapons we so sorely needed.

Only one great channel remained open. It remained open because loyal Ulster gave us the full use of Northern Irish ports and waters, and thus ensured the free working of the Clyde and the Mersey.

But for the loyalty of Northern Ireland we should have been confronted with slavery and death and the light which now shines so strongly throughout the world would have bee quenched.

The bonds of affection between Great Britain and the people of Northern Ireland have been tempered by fire and are now, I believe, unbreakable.”

“We have travelled a hard and darksome road to victory in Europe, and at every turn in this memorable journey the loyalty and courage of Ulster have gleamed before the eyes of men.

The stand of the Government and People of Northern Ireland for the unity of the British Empire and Commonwealth and for the great cause of freedom, for which we all risked our survival will never be forgotten by Great Britain. A strong loyal Ulster will always be vital to the security and well-being of our whole Empire and Commonwealth”

Second World War in Northern Ireland - Information - Other

ulsterman with his " trip down memory lane " piece again , must be that time of the week
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Old 12-06-2017, 02:38 AM
 
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Originally Posted by English Dave View Post
You like to bang the drum for Ulster. You list times of support for the United Kingdom. But, times change..... you know? Time and tide, waits for no man.

How do you think the English feel about what has been done to our country? How do you feel my Uncle, a prisoner of the Germans for five years in the war felt to see his country invaded by foreigners after his sacrifice? My wife's dad, 18 months in hospital after being badly injured in the war? His brother a prisoner of the Japanese for three long years? How do you think they felt seeing this once great country sold down the river?

We English watched your 'troubles' for 30 years. Then, in recent years, the bellyaching of the Scots. We're tired of it Ulsterman. Just real tired.

Now we have the DUP tail wagging the Tory government dog. The English voted by a large majority to leave the EU. We want out, and truly, we are tired of the Irish, and their problems living with each other. You can post patriotic videos, and sing the praises of past Ulster support for the UK all you want, it makes no difference.

We are aching for a leader who will put the vast majority English first, just for a change. It's time for some ruthlessness, and concern for the folks who are the vast majority of these islands. We need to focus on getting out of the EU, and show some backbone. The French know how to look out for their own self interest. Time we did the same.
how do you feel about the idea of the border being in the irish sea ?

thus allowing the current land border arrangement between northern ireland and the republic of ireland to continue and thus operating outside the future brexit changes , do you agree with david davis that northern ireland is not in anyway a special case re brexit ?
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