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Old 05-23-2017, 05:24 AM
 
Location: Somewhere below Mason/Dixon
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Condolences to the people of Manchester, this attack is the most heinous type being aimed at teenage girls. As a parent this sends a chill up my spine. Here in the U.S.A there is a feeling of total disgust with what happened. I know people over there must feel the same way. What could teenage girls have to do with whatever cause they claim to have? Why does the western world put up with it? i support doing whatever it takes to stop these attacks, I support our country working with NATO nations to eradicate ISIS from the planet, even if it means ground troops or war in ISIS controlled Syria. Of course in the aftermath of this the U.K. should take the lead. Time for the free world to stand up together and say enough is enough. Time for them to fear us. Time for Theresa May and Donald Trump to start looking like Thatcher and Reagan.

 
Old 05-23-2017, 05:36 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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There won't be a civil war until the Muslims decide the time is right. For now, they will concentrate on terrorism, outbreeding the native population, living off taxpayers, weakening our resolve. They will then concentrate on legal political means....... more, and more MPs representing their agenda.

At the same time, the native population will be brow beaten, and called racists if they utter anything away from the party line of 'multiculturalism' and 'diversity'. More and more laws frightening folks from voicing their opinion, except quietly among themselves.

If, attempts at taking over through legal means fail, then will come the suicide bombers and truck bombs. Then, there will be ethnic cleansing with the fearful white population running to safe areas. Parts of the country declared a Muslim state.

This is our future, thanks to politicians of the last 50 years, and their actions. Not just here, but in Europe as well. Traitors one and all.

I will now cease, because this thread is about one terrible incident, not the general direction this country is going in.
This is the plan....thankful that our current President has read the memo.

Thoughts and prayers for those suffering.
 
Old 05-23-2017, 05:47 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Some injured are being operated on and in very serious conditions , Islamic state has just admitted responsiblity for the attack. on the BBC.
 
Old 05-23-2017, 05:51 AM
 
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Where are the Winston churchill's of today? Instead you have a parliament filled with Chamberlains
No we don't have anyone in politics with the courage of Chamberlain, yes COURAGE!!! Not only was Chamberlain a politician with honour, ( imagine that ) he showed extreme courage to avaoid another war. Anyone who wants to try to understand Chamberlains motive, only has to read the press reports following the ww1 battles, not to mention the ammounts of wounded ex servicemen.

Churchill was a different kettle of fish, as he once said.
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"history will be kind to me,as i intend to write it"
 
Old 05-23-2017, 06:11 AM
 
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No we don't have anyone in politics with the courage of Chamberlain, yes COURAGE!!! Not only was Chamberlain a politician with honour, ( imagine that ) he showed extreme courage to avaoid another war. Anyone who wants to try to understand Chamberlains motive, only has to read the press reports following the ww1 battles, not to mention the ammounts of wounded ex servicemen.

Churchill was a different kettle of fish, as he once said.
History has proved Chamberlain wrong, defending him is a pretty futile exercise.
 
Old 05-23-2017, 06:14 AM
 
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No we don't have anyone in politics with the courage of Chamberlain, yes COURAGE!!! Not only was Chamberlain a politician with honour, ( imagine that ) he showed extreme courage to avaoid another war. Anyone who wants to try to understand Chamberlains motive, only has to read the press reports following the ww1 battles, not to mention the ammounts of wounded ex servicemen.

Churchill was a different kettle of fish, as he once said.
It sounds so much more humane to support peace. Only a crazy person wants or welcomes war. Churchill is famous for his bold leadership during ww2, while Chamberlain is famous for his appeasement of Hitler. Chamberlain thought he was sparing his people from the horrors of war but really he invited those horrors in. The appearance of weakness invites aggression while projection of strength deters it. Only a fool attacks a strong nation, but weak nations are targeted like a wolf targets a weak small deer.

Peace at all cost is not peace at all. Aggression must be met with overwhelming force, only this will deter future aggression. It is no different than the grade school playground, bullies always target the weak children, not the strong confident ones. I have always seen Winston Churchill as one of the heros of western civilization, he stood up to evil and rallied his nation to fight that evil. The strength and resilience of Britain in the dark days of 1939 and 1940 are the reason the Nazis did not overrun all of Europe. There is a reason history judges these two men much differently, one as a hero while the other as a sort of a naive fool. When responding to aggression we should look at what history teaches us. Clearly the bombings and shootings by Isis inspired terrorists in Europe and North America over the past few years need to be answered in a strong aggressive way. ISIS leaders in Syria should be nervously lookin up today and in the weeks to come. Doing nothing only invites more attacks.
 
Old 05-23-2017, 06:34 AM
 
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No we don't have anyone in politics with the courage of Chamberlain, yes COURAGE!!! Not only was Chamberlain a politician with honour, ( imagine that ) he showed extreme courage to avaoid another war. Anyone who wants to try to understand Chamberlains motive, only has to read the press reports following the ww1 battles, not to mention the ammounts of wounded ex servicemen.

Churchill was a different kettle of fish, as he once said.

Chamberlain was not courageous, he was a dreamer.

Thank goodness Churchill came along.or England would have gone down.
 
Old 05-23-2017, 07:03 AM
 
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Chamberlain was not courageous, he was a dreamer.

Thank goodness Churchill came along.or England would have gone down.
And thank goodness that we in the US have President Trump who recognizes the threat of muslims.
 
Old 05-23-2017, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Segovia, central Spain, 1230 m asl, Csb Mediterranean with strong continental influence, 40º43 N
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My thoughts goes to British people. I hope all European countries will be strong enough to remove ISIS from our continent.
 
Old 05-23-2017, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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And thank goodness that we in the US have President Trump who recognizes the threat of muslims.
who comes out and says what a danger they are.. and not pussyfoot around it like over here...
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