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Old 10-18-2017, 04:04 PM
 
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for another 6 months?

More particularly, I know GB doesn't require a visa from Americans for 6 months or less. In the Schengen countries the maximum stay is 90 days in a 180-day period. Theoretically, could I stay in Britain 6 months, take a ferry to France and stay 90 days and then go back to GB for another 6 months--rinse repeat?
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Old 10-18-2017, 04:45 PM
 
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A quick reading of the UK's visa rules at https://www.gov.uk/guidance/immigrat...-visitor-rules seems to frown on such a plan.

"Genuine intention to visit

V 4.2 The applicant must satisfy the decision maker that they are a genuine visitor. This means that the applicant:
  1. (a) will leave the UK at the end of their visit; and
  2. (b) will not live in the UK for extended periods through frequent or successive visits, or make the UK their main home;"
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Old 10-18-2017, 05:47 PM
 
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A quick reading of the UK's visa rules at https://www.gov.uk/guidance/immigrat...-visitor-rules seems to frown on such a plan.

"Genuine intention to visit

V 4.2 The applicant must satisfy the decision maker that they are a genuine visitor. This means that the applicant:
  1. (a) will leave the UK at the end of their visit; and
  2. (b) will not live in the UK for extended periods through frequent or successive visits, or make the UK their main home;"
Yeah I saw that. It was under the visa section so I thought possibly it was applicable to people WITH a visa but not for people WITHOUT a visa (same 6 months or less). No go. Silly me. Thanks much for that confirmation.
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Old 10-18-2017, 06:11 PM
 
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Yeah I saw that. It was under the visa section so I thought possibly it was applicable to people WITH a visa but not for people WITHOUT a visa (same 6 months or less). No go. Silly me. Thanks much for that confirmation.
ISTM that even though a US person does not have to PRE-apply for a visa to enter the UK, when the immigration agent (the decision maker) stamps your passport at Heathrow, that is your "visa" to stay 6 months.
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Old 10-18-2017, 09:55 PM
 
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ISTM that even though a US person does not have to PRE-apply for a visa to enter the UK, when the immigration agent (the decision maker) stamps your passport at Heathrow, that is your "visa" to stay 6 months.
Yeah, so depending on his mood that morning a foreigner might or might not get their passport stamped.
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Old 10-19-2017, 12:34 AM
 
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for another 6 months?

More particularly, I know GB doesn't require a visa from Americans for 6 months or less. In the Schengen countries the maximum stay is 90 days in a 180-day period. Theoretically, could I stay in Britain 6 months, take a ferry to France and stay 90 days and then go back to GB for another 6 months--rinse repeat?
No.


If you want to move to the UK, get a visa. I wouldn't even advise you to seek citizenship in another EU country to attempt to settle in the UK at this point since I'm not sure what your rights would be now that Brexit has happened.


Getting a visa to live in the UK is incredibly difficult if you don't have a close family relationship with a British person or a job lined up there. Even if you do get a job there, the offer can be rescinded if the company loses patience with the work visa process (which can be long). There are a few other categories but most Americans would not qualify. If you have Irish ancestry you could try that route but the circumstances are very specific.


If you were an Asian, African, or Middle Eastern migrant and showed up there illegally hanging off a train you jumped on in Sangatte, you'd have a better chance of staying than you would as an English-speaking American with actual skills.
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Old 10-19-2017, 03:41 PM
 
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If you were an Asian, African, or Middle Eastern migrant and showed up there illegally hanging off a train you jumped on in Sangatte, you'd have a better chance of staying than you would as an English-speaking American with actual skills.
I believe you. I don't even have a skill I'm a retired American. I have Irish and British ancestry but it end at my great great grandparents and I recall inquiring about this once before. The rep said it cuts off at my grandparents who were both born here in America. oh well.
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Old 10-20-2017, 09:48 PM
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UK border control is run by a bunch of dicks....especially if you are young and traveling solo.

I believe the next time I visit the UK, the border control might give me a hard time on why I did not receive an exit stamp when leaving the UK for US by ship (QM2).

@BigDGeek: I beg to differ.

Most are descendants of immigrants who immigrated there years ago in the big cities and thus were able to get UK citizenship or legal status. If anything, I always wondered how they can stand dealing with the constant passive aggressiveness of sour puss ethnic Brits giving them ethnic/racial slurs (been called a Paki, sand rat, and whatnot despite being Latin American)!
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Old 10-25-2017, 09:08 AM
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UK border control is run by a bunch of dicks....especially if you are young and traveling solo.
The US has some of the harshest border control in the Western World.

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I believe the next time I visit the UK, the border control might give me a hard time on why I did not receive an exit stamp when leaving the UK for US by ship (QM2).
They don't stamp passports anymore they just scan your passport, as most passports are now electronic with biometric chips.

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@BigDGeek: I beg to differ.

Most are descendants of immigrants who immigrated there years ago in the big cities and thus were able to get UK citizenship or legal status. If anything, I always wondered how they can stand dealing with the constant passive aggressiveness of sour puss ethnic Brits giving them ethnic/racial slurs (been called a Paki, sand rat, and whatnot despite being Latin American)!
If you clearly don't like the British, why come and post your ignorant and inaccurate comments here.
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Old 10-25-2017, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Berkshire, England
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If you were an Asian, African, or Middle Eastern migrant and showed up there illegally hanging off a train you jumped on in Sangatte, you'd have a better chance of staying than you would as an English-speaking American with actual skills.
So true.

It's exactly the same in the other direction (UK to USA). Hard to explain, other than our politicians are congenitally stupid.
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