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Originally Posted by dunno what to put here
Liverpool has nice suburbs..
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It does indeed, but as I said, it's not always really possible to tell from from looking from the outside.
The problem really is the anti social youth. Chavs, neds, call them what you want, but they are rapidly turning towns into no-go areas.
They tend to commit minor crimes, and are more guilty of harassment and intimidation than anything, relatively minor stuff, so it's never recorded in official figures.
It's almost like the US gangs, but they tend to victimise innocents, rather than shooting each other !
But it's the sheer scale of this which is poisoining Britain.
Police have had all their powers stripped away and can do nothing for fear of being accused of brutality or harassment, and the chavs, while not being intelligent enough to string a coherent sentence together, are completely aware of their rights under lhuman rights legislation.
it's their bible.
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Originally Posted by paull805
Small world bobman! I stay in the Hilltown in Dundee,
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I don't think Hilltown was the worst, but you have to agree, it just looks it !
Some nice kebab shops up there !
I used to deliver parcels around the area, and hardly met anyone who spoke English ! (even some of the natives! )
Lochee and Douglas were the others I tried to remember ! Thanks.
Was it Ardler they were moving a lot of the hoolies to, or was Ardler the posh bit ? I can't remember !
I'd heard they were knocking down a lot of the flats, but I've hardly been to Dundee for years since I changed jobs.
I left after my van was broken into and the contents stolen, all in a 3 minute timeframe, in broad daylight in the middle of the day !
That was in Fairbairn street, but I think as a Dundonian you could have probably guessed that !
To be fair to Raploch in Stirling, they have worked quite hard to improve it, there are widescale community schemes, and improvements to housing, it does look much better now.
Problem with it tho is that they are putting the same folks back in the houses.
I know that most of the people in Raploch (and Dundee) are fine, upstanding folks who just want to get about their business.
But there is a hardcore of idiots who ruin it.
If they can get them out, then there's a chance.
Have you been to Cornton recently ?
After they knocked down a lot of the flats around Johnson and Adamson, and built the new houses, they gave them to the people who had the flats, again, there are some good ones, but some of them, not so much !
the new streets quickly started to look like the old ones !