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Unread 12-09-2008, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Yucaipa, California
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Default Over Taxed In England

I have often heard that in england the citizens are taxed & taxed & taxed again.Why isnt anything done about it & who supports the queen,her servents,workers,guards & palaces,etc... ? It just seems that the british govt would impose a breathing tax if they could & they totally control the people.I guess living in america isnt too bad after all.Oh...who pays for the queens fancy parties ? I watched a documentary on pbs about the queen & it seems her life as well as the royal families have been quite comfy.

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Unread 12-09-2008, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Axarquía, Andalucía, Spain
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It's not just England. Scotland and NI are apart of the UK too so we are sometimes taxed "more" than England. Depends on where you live, what you earn yadda yadda.

My fiance is American and you get taxed more in the US. Federal tax, state, county, health insurance (alot), property tax..the list goes on.

I only pay income and council tax.


I dunno but it seems Americans forget about Scotland when they think of the "UK" I blame their education system...again.
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Unread 12-09-2008, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Portsmouth
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The uk is taxed so much it beggers belief, a large portion of this money goes to other countries in foriegn aid and for membership of the E.U which is in the billions of pounds, i think we also pay the higest tax on fuel (70%) (that might need checking) The tax money does not go where it is supposed to tho, lets look at the Royal Navy, in 1982, they had 65 destroyers and frigates, today it is down to just 22, the Navy is at rock bottom and we are no longer sending a war ship to defend our Falkland islands because the Navy cant afford it...........this with the defence budget increase?????

The Queen takes around 66p off of each of her subjects.......this is called the civil list which she uses to fund the work of the royal family, the government in reality pay for her "parties" which are infact of great use to the uk in forming friendships and insuring commerce and trade with other nations. The palaces you see her in are not hers, they belong to the nations people and are hers in trust, however, the government wont pay for there refurbishment, and they havent been referbished since her fathers time on the throne nearly 60 years ago

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Unread 12-09-2008, 08:39 AM
 
Location: On My Way Home
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It's not just England. Scotland and NI are apart of the UK too so we are sometimes taxed "more" than England. Depends on where you live, what you earn yadda yadda.

My fiance is American and you get taxed more in the US. Federal tax, state, county, health insurance (alot), property tax..the list goes on.

I only pay income and council tax.


I dunno but it seems Americans forget about Scotland when they think of the "UK" I blame their education system...again.
I agree we pay more taxes here in the US.
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Unread 12-09-2008, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, US (from Windsor, England)
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It's not just England. Scotland and NI are apart of the UK too so we are sometimes taxed "more" than England. Depends on where you live, what you earn yadda yadda.

My fiance is American and you get taxed more in the US. Federal tax, state, county, health insurance (alot), property tax..the list goes on.

I only pay income and council tax.


I dunno but it seems Americans forget about Scotland when they think of the "UK" I blame their education system...again.

Taxes in the UK are the same. PAYE has 3 rates regardless of which 'province' you live in. You do not pay more than I do. The US system is alot more complex (and rediculous) and has more tax bands, but you do not necessarily pay more. In Wisconsin for example, taxes are not imposed on the first $30,000. In Illinois no taxes are paid on pensions.... and so on.

Why on earth should Americans think about Scotland (the only member of the any international political organisation is the UK, and the real 'country').

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Unread 12-09-2008, 10:54 AM
 
Location: in purgurtory in London
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After reading a thread on the health forum yesterday, I almost got down on my knees in gratitude for having the system we have here. I have private dental cover only because it's near enough impossible to get to see a good dentist any other way in London.

Over $700 a month for a single man to cover himself individually?????? I went that route in the states for a few years (no where near $700 but still a lot) and cancelled it as I rarely ever needed to go to the doctor.

So I guess we benefit some way.
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Unread 12-09-2008, 10:56 AM
 
Location: On My Way Home
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Taxes in the UK are the same. PAYE has 3 rates regardless of which 'province' you live in. You do not pay more than I do. The US system is alot more complex (and rediculous) and has more tax bands, but you do not necessarily pay more. In Wisconsin for example, taxes are not imposed on the first $30,000. In Illinois no taxes are paid on pensions.... and so on.

Why on earth should Americans think about Scotland (the only member of the any international political organisation is the UK, and the real 'country'). Maybe it is you that should receive an 'education'.. again?

Here's the education.....the UK is Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland, the UK is not a seperate Country from Scotland, England, Wales or Northern ireland, it's name United Kingdom encopasses all four Countries into one.
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Unread 12-09-2008, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, US (from Windsor, England)
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I have often heard that in england the citizens are taxed & taxed & taxed again.Why isnt anything done about it & who supports the queen,her servents,workers,guards & palaces,etc... ? It just seems that the british govt would impose a breathing tax if they could & they totally control the people.I guess living in america isnt too bad after all.Oh...who pays for the queens fancy parties ? I watched a documentary on pbs about the queen & it seems her life as well as the royal families have been quite comfy.

Taxes here are not as high as some Americans are led to believe. The biggest difference is that we (mostly) get something for our taxes, national insurance for example, rather than seeing nothing from it. If you add on health insurance in the states it really isn't much different.

As for the queen, she is supported through taxes. Some estimates are as low as 40m per year, or as high as 150m per year. This does not include her extended family. You can argue that the civil list contributes more money to the treasury each year than it costs the taxpayer (depending on whom whould own the crown estate if the monarchy were abolished). Its hard notto justify the royals purely on financial reasoning.
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Unread 12-09-2008, 11:02 AM
 
Location: in purgurtory in London
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i think we also pay the higest tax on fuel (70%) (that might need checking)
Also booze tax.
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Unread 12-09-2008, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, US (from Windsor, England)
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Here's the education.....the UK is Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland, the UK is not a seperate Country from Scotland, England, Wales or Northern ireland, it's name United Kingdom encopasses all four Countries into one.

My point is that the United Kingdom is the only 'country' represented in any international organisation. Scotland, England, Wales, Northern Ireland, are provinces. And so, with regard to the post I was responding to, American's wouldn't be concerned with the rules in Scotland because to them it is no different than a state. And in fact, states in the US have far more individual power and representation than any of the individual British provinces & Northern Ireland.

Instead of posting on these forums with critique of American perception, it is the Brits who usually try to project our idiosyncracies on them rather than understanding the way in which we are perceived (which is the very reason for most of the negative attitude towards the US in the first place).

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