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Old 03-11-2009, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Wichita,Kansas
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Why is it so common to say British when English is more specific.
An Irishman will tell you thats he is Irish but i rarely hear the English..
Describe themselves this way.Is there a P/C angle to this?
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:32 AM
 
Location: The Silver State (from the UK)
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No. The UK is a very strange place! The United Kingdom consist of Northern Ireland and Great Britain. Great Britain is made up of England, Wales, and Scotland.

To me, all who reside in Britain are British, and is the real country. Many people feel that Scotland, England, and Wales are different countries and therefore will present themeselves as such. In comparison to other countries, such as yours, the provinces of the UK are just states.
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:43 AM
 
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I quit saying British accent long ago because whats a british accent???
Could be Cockney,Posh,Geordie,Brummie,etc
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:56 AM
 
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Well you can tell which side I am...the clue is in the name lol! I am proud to say I'm British and to be associated with Wales, Scotland and Ireland. Just as others are proud to say they are English, Irish etc. I don't really mind. I think it may have something to do with the fact that Wales, Scotland and N. Ireland are all smaller than England and tend to be more close-knit and patriotic than the English. Also, I know it's incorrect to assume but I would say when the word 'British' is mentioned to most foreigners they instantly think of London and in turn, England. I think most English realise this and don't feel such a need to define that we're English.
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:56 AM
 
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No. The UK is a very strange place! The United Kingdom consist of Northern Ireland and Great Britain. Great Britain is made up of England, Wales, and Scotland.

To me, all who reside in Britain are British, and is the real country. Many people feel that Scotland, England, and Wales are different countries and therefore will present themeselves as such. In comparison to other countries, such as yours, the provinces of the UK are just states.
Scotland is a separate country, not a province. The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland exists as the result of a Treaty in 1707 between the Kingdom of Scotland and the Kingdom of England; two independent countries. Wales is a Principality of the English crown and Northern Ireland is a Province.
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Old 03-11-2009, 11:23 AM
 
Location: The Silver State (from the UK)
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Scotland is a separate country, not a province. The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland exists as the result of a Treaty in 1707 between the Kingdom of Scotland and the Kingdom of England; two independent countries. Wales is a Principality of the English crown and Northern Ireland is a Province.

'Kingdoms' are self imposed and don't mean anything. I suggest you google the UK.
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Old 03-11-2009, 11:34 AM
 
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'Kingdoms' are self imposed and don't mean anything. I suggest you google the UK.
I'm not quite sure what you point is. It is historical fact that the United Kingdom was created by treaty between England and Scotland.
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Old 03-11-2009, 11:46 AM
 
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Why is it so common to say British when English is more specific.
An Irishman will tell you thats he is Irish but i rarely hear the English..
Describe themselves this way.Is there a P/C angle to this?
It's simple really - English = British but British does not necessarily = English - my husband is British, but not English - he is Scottish.
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Old 03-11-2009, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Strathclyde & Málaga
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I'm Scottish, I don't know many Scots that associate themselves as being "British"

We have Scottish accents, there is no such thing as a whole "British" accent i can asure you.

Scotland is a country within the UK, we have our own culture and many huge differences of that of England, Wales etc. Alot of people seem to forget that.

Furthermore Scotland has its own Gaelic language and Scots-English. Not to mention a vast array of "other" differences, landscape, law, education, regulations etc etc
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Old 03-11-2009, 01:18 PM
 
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I'm Scottish, I don't know many Scots that associate themselves as being "British"

We have Scottish accents...
I totally agree - (my bad ). My husband always identifies himself as Scottish - I have more of a tendency to define him as "British"

He frequently gets the "You don't sound Scottish" comment in Canada, as he was raised in London - so sounds VERY "English" (which, as you can well imagine, causes a weeeee bit of conflict for the proud Scotsman!)
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