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Old 11-28-2009, 05:16 PM
 
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Just to play devil's advocate, if reducing teenage motor vehicle accidents and related deaths is a goal, wouldn't it be far simpler and more effective to raise the minimum driving age?

That would reduce not only alcohol related teen motor vehicle incidents, but also teen motor vehicle accidents across the board.

Of course, the member companies of the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety which sponsored the above link might not like the reduction in premium revenue.
They already have in some states. They have also reduced the amount of passengers a teenager can have etc. The US though is an automobile nation, it is in the culture, it's seen as a right of passage really when you get your driver's license at the age of 16. One other benefit to also raising the age too 21 is that it reduces damage to the brain during its development, brain doesn't really finish developing until around the age of 20 and above. Actually the insurance companies like it because it means less claims they have to pay out, teenage drivers are the most likely to get into an accident. Insurance companies don't make money when there are accidents.
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Old 11-28-2009, 05:17 PM
 
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No need to be rude. I did say please.
And it is customary on the forum when quoting statistics to provide a source.

It really isn't that hard to fathom man.
Well it is not that hard to google, yahoo, bing, altavista something either on your own.

To be honest your remark requesting a link came off as more a challenge as if you didn't believe what I was saying.
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Old 11-28-2009, 07:51 PM
 
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might it have soemthing to do with the high uemployjment of young people.I mean when you life seems to be going no where and you are bored;drinking is easy to slip into.
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Old 11-28-2009, 08:11 PM
 
Location: OKC
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I think teens in the UK drink slightly more than the teens in the Netherlands because pot is slightly easier to get in the Netherlands.
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Old 11-28-2009, 08:18 PM
 
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Insurance companies don't make money when there are accidents.
Insurance companies almost always make money.

They're like casinos; they may lose on the occasional single incident, but they employ some very skilled actuaries to make sure the overall odds (and dollars) are firmly in their favour.

As far as driving being a rite of passage, the drinking age is viewed in the same manner. Certainly if one can raise the barrier of one rite, one could raise the age limit for the other if the political will was present.
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Old 11-29-2009, 08:01 AM
 
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Well it is not that hard to google, yahoo, bing, altavista something either on your own.

To be honest your remark requesting a link came off as more a challenge as if you didn't believe what I was saying.

My point is that it is up to YOU to support your data - not everyone else's. So if it isn't hard to google it, then when you are spouting "statistics", please provide a source.
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Old 11-29-2009, 06:37 PM
 
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My point is that it is up to YOU to support your data - not everyone else's. So if it isn't hard to google it, then when you are spouting "statistics", please provide a source.

Oh I understand that but it's a little annoying when people can't also do their own research. I mean I obviously did my own research before making the post.
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Old 11-29-2009, 06:38 PM
 
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Insurance companies almost always make money.

They're like casinos; they may lose on the occasional single incident, but they employ some very skilled actuaries to make sure the overall odds (and dollars) are firmly in their favour.

As far as driving being a rite of passage, the drinking age is viewed in the same manner. Certainly if one can raise the barrier of one rite, one could raise the age limit for the other if the political will was present.
As long as their isn't a claim they always make money but once there are claims they don't make money. Look at hurricane Katrina, it nearly wiped out the insurances companies that provided insurance for the houses that had flood insurance and other related policies. Ya but driving is considered more important than drinking in the US. Like I said they already have in some states, the real reason for it not really happening is because of parents believe it or not.
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Old 11-29-2009, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Default Why are Brit teens prone to drinking

Rather than replying with a long story I broke my opinions down albeit
possible factors into an outline form.

1. Britians teens are not much different than any teens worldwide. Geographics may contribute to drinking if a teen livesin a town,village,
or somewhat isolated area that suggests being bored.
2. Teens in larger cities are subject to a greater volume of peer pressure
and a greater chance of parents who drink or are disfunctional,alcoholics.
or economically depressed.
3. Brit teens may find binge drinking to be fun and socially cool.
4. Alcohol is perhaps a more accessible drug and there may be early
alcoholic tendencies
5. Statistically worldwide only 10% of all teens associate themselves from their respective religions (including evangelical christian teens) There
are pockets of resurgence of teens finding Jesus ,digging scripture and chistian music/concerts especially in US. European religions (except for Islam) have very few church going teens.
6. Britians teens are often left disinfranchised by high unemployment,vague futures (careers), dismantled families,hard core
dark music, poor diets/health and lack trust,love and faith in society.

Last edited by DASULAR17; 11-29-2009 at 07:46 PM.. Reason: typo errors
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Old 11-29-2009, 10:20 PM
 
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Maybe they think people who don't drink never have any good stories to tell....
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