Is LA more urban than people think? (metro, suburban, crime)

[RaymondChandlerLives]

I was hoping you'd post an ice-t video as factual evidence. I really like that guy. Anyway, I find your moving of the goalposts comical. Silver Springs and Arlington are way less crime ridden than Anaheim...if you're adverse to facts.

[PosterExtraordinaire]

The only reason that Santa Ana or Anaheim have a reputation is because their in OC lol. 30 murders for a city of over 300,000 is not a lot.

[Huge Foodie 215]

Originally Posted by RaymondChandlerLives

I was hoping you'd post an ice-t video as factual evidence. I really like that guy. Anyway, I find your moving of the goalposts comical. Silver Springs and Arlington are way less crime ridden than Anaheim...if you're adverse to facts.

California Department of Justice - Criminal Justice Statistics Center - Office of the Attorney General

I'm sure the 69 people murdered in Orange County in 2009 appreciate that comment.

Or the 91 people murdered in Riverside County
Or the staggering 121 people murdered in San Bernardino County

There aren't very many suburban counties on the East Coast that have that many murders. It's a fact.

West Coast: can't do urban or suburban very well.

Now back to LA's urbanity.

[RaymondChandlerLives]

Originally Posted by Fitzrovian

Yes clearly. This is clearly, obviously much more urban than anything in Manhattan:

Fileharavi Slum in Mumbai.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Dharavi, possibly the densest place in the world with up to 1m in 0.67 sq miles).

Clearly.

Pictures and YouTube. This is what NE boosters use in place of actual facts and data. Comical, really. Like I said, you have to be extremely delusional to argue that NYC's dense urban form matches Mumbai's.
Here's another picture: http://blog.emilyminor.com/uploaded_...r08-716379.jpg

Mumbai makes NYC look quaint.

[john_starks]

cali is not built for cities

look @ LA and SF

SF thinks its NYC lol

give it up and accept being the ecological wonder that you are

[munchitup]

Originally Posted by 2Easy

Woah! Such hostility! Santa Ana and Anaheim are at or below the national average. Also, like it or not they are cities (especially Santa Ana) and existed as such before they were swallowed up by the LA metro. A more fair comparison would be to East Coast cities of similar population and socioeconomic level, not a bedroom upper middle class suburb. Try Newark, Jersey City, Richmond, Virginia Beach, etc and see what you get.

Originally Posted by Huge Foodie 215

California Department of Justice - Criminal Justice Statistics Center - Office of the Attorney General

I'm sure the 69 people murdered in Orange County in 2009 appreciate that comment.

Or the 91 people murdered in Riverside County
Or the staggering 121 people murdered in San Bernardino County

There aren't very many suburban counties on the East Coast that have that many murders. It's a fact.

West Coast: can't do urban or suburban very well.

Now back to LA's urbanity.

Riverside and San Berdoo counties are not suburbs of LA. They are their own, ultra decentralized metro area - there truly is no "there" there.

[RaymondChandlerLives]

Originally Posted by Huge Foodie 215

California Department of Justice - Criminal Justice Statistics Center - Office of the Attorney General

I'm sure the 69 people murdered in Orange County in 2009 appreciate that comment.

Or the 91 people murdered in Riverside County
Or the staggering 121 people murdered in San Bernardino County

There aren't very many suburban counties on the East Coast that have that many murders. It's a fact.

West Coast: can't do urban or suburban very well.

Now back to LA's urbanity.

Those three counties are home to 7.2 million people. Staggering...lol.

Back to moving the goalposts after being proven wrong...

[RaymondChandlerLives]

Originally Posted by PosterExtraordinaire

The only reason that Santa Ana or Anaheim have a reputation is because their in OC lol. 30 murders for a city of over 300,000 is not a lot.

69 murders for a county of 3 million is ridiculously low. D.C (pop:610k) had 109 murders in 2011.

[Fitzrovian]

Originally Posted by RaymondChandlerLives

Pictures and YouTube. This is what NE boosters use in place of actual facts and data. Comical, really. Like I said, you have to be extremely delusional to argue that NYC's dense urban form matches Mumbai's.
Here's another picture: http://blog.emilyminor.com/uploaded_...r08-716379.jpg

Mumbai makes NYC look quaint.

Oh wow you really showed me. Those 12 story commie blocks sure look menacingly urban. Manhattan's got nothing on that! Not to mention Mumbai's impressive tally of 30 skyscrapers.

Your idiotic argument is all about density. And we already saw what the densest part of Mumbai looks like. Just stop embarrassing yourself.

[Slyman11]

Originally Posted by munchitup

Riverside and San Berdoo counties are not suburbs of LA. They are their own, ultra decentralized metro area - there truly is no "there" there.

If Riverside and San Bernardino counties are not apart of the LA area/suburban LA then its true to say that LA with 13 million in its metro is closer to Chicago's 10 million than the 20 million in the NY area. I always saw the IE as an extension of LA but it appears you folks there have conflicting views with one another over that place perhaps?