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Old 07-23-2010, 01:08 AM
 
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Default Is LA more urban than people think?

How does it compare to a city like Miami in terms of urbanity? Watch this entire video before stating your opinion:


YouTube - Great Wilshire Walk - Downtown Los Angeles to Santa Monica
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Old 07-23-2010, 01:16 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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It's different.

Los Angeles is a very dense city, and it can get VERY dense in some places, above 50,000 people per square mile. But the difference is this.

Los Angeles city limits is spread out, 479 square miles including mountains, it has it's advantages but also it's disadvantages.

Miami city limits is compact, it's 36 square miles, and it'd forced to build vertical to grow. It's infrastructure allow for it to have more people per square mile than Los Angeles can by development. If that is the case or not, I do not know.

Los Angeles developed from sprawl, it still is semi-sprawled out, but that is fine. The city has a lot to offer inside city proper.

But maintaining it's infrastructure can also be a pain, like public transit, how can you get it out and through say 350 square miles to easy travelers? Block to block. That layout for the city makes it really hard to do so.

With Miami it can save money and be more efficient inside the city, it has less area to cover and less to do meaning it can get people around at ease.

There are different branches in urban cities, Los Angeles signifies one kind, Miami another kind.
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Old 07-23-2010, 01:36 AM
 
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How does it compare to a city like Miami in terms of urbanity? Watch this entire video before stating your opinion:


YouTube - Great Wilshire Walk - Downtown Los Angeles to Santa Monica
From watching that video, I find it interesting that the most urban part is definitely not downtown, but the Miracle Mile/Koreatown section, plus some of the areas by Westwood and before Santa Monica. Some serious lowrises there.

Overall, I do not think LA is a particularly urban city, BUT that is a longer urban stretch than you'll find anywhere in the country outside of NYC and Chicago. And Im sure there are many others like it in LA.

What LA does seem to lack though, even amongst its most urban stretches, are truly vibrant commercial districts. Of course there are some major exceptions that we all know about, but for such a large city with big chunks that are quite urban, the amount of commercial activity clusters is lacking.

Also, it is such a big city, and so many sections have more of a super-large suburb feel, that it dillutes the truly urban sections, of which there are many.
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Old 07-23-2010, 01:48 AM
 
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It's different.

Los Angeles is a very dense city, and it can get VERY dense in some places, above 50,000 people per square mile. But the difference is this.

Los Angeles city limits is spread out, 479 square miles including mountains, it has it's advantages but also it's disadvantages.

Miami city limits is compact, it's 36 square miles, and it'd forced to build vertical to grow. It's infrastructure allow for it to have more people per square mile than Los Angeles can by development. If that is the case or not, I do not know.

Los Angeles developed from sprawl, it still is semi-sprawled out, but that is fine. The city has a lot to offer inside city proper.

But maintaining it's infrastructure can also be a pain, like public transit, how can you get it out and through say 350 square miles to easy travelers? Block to block. That layout for the city makes it really hard to do so.

With Miami it can save money and be more efficient inside the city, it has less area to cover and less to do meaning it can get people around at ease.

There are different branches in urban cities, Los Angeles signifies one kind, Miami another kind.
Awesome, post.
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Old 07-23-2010, 01:59 AM
 
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The area in that video roughly between 6:10 and 7:00 is definitely all pretty urban. Check it out!
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Old 07-23-2010, 02:03 AM
 
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The area in that video roughly between 6:10 and 7:00 is definitely all pretty urban. Check it out!
The first 4 minutes of the video are far more urban than that section, especially if youve been there. Just because there are a lot more mid-rises near Westwood does not make it more urban, not even close.
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Old 07-23-2010, 02:30 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Thats funny. When you posed the question about LA the first thing that came to my mind is that video. It pretty much shows 15 miles of urban build up that exceeds what you see in many traditional East Coast or Midwest Cities. LA of today is definitely a dense urban center. It's layout is challenging though. Some of it's most urban areas are seperated by several miles of difficult to traverse city streets due to its massive expanse. There are some large suburban feeling areas within the city and then there are some very dense areas.

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Old 07-23-2010, 02:36 AM
 
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How does it compare to a city like Miami in terms of urbanity? Watch this entire video before stating your opinion:


YouTube - Great Wilshire Walk - Downtown Los Angeles to Santa Monica
Haha. Who says LA isn't walkable, urban, or vibrant? This video exudes all of that.
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Old 07-23-2010, 03:12 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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That video gave me a headache. LA is sexy tho, I cant wait to visit.
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Old 07-23-2010, 03:25 AM
 
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LA looks too sexy.
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