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Old 01-04-2011, 01:15 AM
 
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Beijing and Paris Working on Laws to Limit Automobiles

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Traffic has always been a problem, and the more cars there are, the worst traffic gets. Some cities, Beijing and Paris included, are taking drastic measures to curb traffic such as limiting new car registration and banning SUVís from city streets...
Beijing and Paris Working on Laws to Limit Automobiles – Gas 2.0
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Old 01-04-2011, 01:30 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Stories like this make me chuckle at Americans who romanticize European attitudes toward public transportation, believing that Europeans just love taking trains and buses and therefore they're superior to us gas-guzzling, car-loving Americans. So why is it then that their city streets are so choked with traffic that they have to do things like restrict SUVs in Paris and charge congestion fees in London? Why are all those people in cars instead of on their oh-so-revered buses and trains?
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Old 01-04-2011, 02:08 AM
 
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Nobody says that you can't have both, but obviously there are problems with trying to copy the American model. China's explosion of auto ownership has resulted in week-long traffic jams, leading to the draconian measures referenced above. But, on the other hand, they also have this:

Chinese Train Hits 302 MPH, Breaks Commercial Speed Record
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Old 01-04-2011, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Western Massachusetts
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Stories like this make me chuckle at Americans who romanticize European attitudes toward public transportation, believing that Europeans just love taking trains and buses and therefore they're superior to us gas-guzzling, car-loving Americans. So why is it then that their city streets are so choked with traffic that they have to do things like restrict SUVs in Paris and charge congestion fees in London? Why are all those people in cars instead of on their oh-so-revered buses and trains?
Because the city is dense and crowded and not really built for large amounts of cars, so even if a small minority of city visitors use cars, it can clog up the streets. Traffic choked streets doesn't mean most people drive.

For example, closer to home, only one of eight workers in Manhattan commute by car or carpool. Rush hour traffic in Manhattan is still hideous, though perhaps congestion pricing would help.
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Old 01-04-2011, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Yorkshire, England
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Because the city is dense and crowded and not really built for large amounts of cars, so even if a small minority of city visitors use cars, it can clog up the streets. Traffic choked streets doesn't mean most people drive.
Very true. In central London within the congestion charge zone most of what you get is buses, taxis and delivery vehicles and the streets are still horribly congested much of the day.
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Old 01-27-2013, 09:22 AM
 
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Nobody says that you can't have both, but obviously there are problems with trying to copy the American model. China's explosion of auto ownership has resulted in week-long traffic jams, leading to the draconian measures referenced above. But, on the other hand, they also have this:

Chinese Train Hits 302 MPH, Breaks Commercial Speed Record
China has a major pollution problem. So reducing the number of cars might be a good idea.
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Old 01-27-2013, 09:25 AM
 
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I hope it gets more people out and about walking and getting healthy.
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