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Old 03-16-2011, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Sacramento, Placerville
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New Haven, CT is planning to remove an old expressway that separates its downtown from its Medical District. The highway will be replced by urban boulevards and they are looking to fill in the newly vacated land with new buildings. Should be interesting. Fort Washington Way in Cincinatti is another. Jay

What is the definition of expressway in that part of the country? On the West Coast expressways are really city streets that don't have driveways in and out business and shopping center parking lots every 35ft. The idea is an uninterrupted flow of traffic regulated by traffic lights at intersections were access to the expressway is provided.
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Old 03-16-2011, 03:03 PM
 
Location: The Port City is rising.
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What is the definition of expressway in that part of the country? On the West Coast expressways are really city streets that don't have driveways in and out business and shopping center parking lots every 35ft. The idea is an uninterrupted flow of traffic regulated by traffic lights at intersections were access to the expressway is provided.

what you call freeways, we call expressways. what you describe above is A. rare over here B. usually called a parkway.
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what you call freeways, we call expressways. what you describe above is A. rare over here B. usually called a parkway.
A parkway for me is similar to an expressway but is generally well landscaped, a bit more winding, bans trucks, and has short entrance and exit ramps. Both expressways and parkways have no traffic lights and use entrance and exit ramps.

I didn't know freeways and expressways were distinct in the west coast.
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Old 03-16-2011, 10:31 PM
 
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I don't think anyone says "expressway" on the west coast--it's one of those regional words, like "turnpike", "pop" or "poke" that you don't hear on this side of the country. Generally you hear "freeway" or "highway," but they are used interchangeably. A few places are called "parkways," generally older scenic highways like the Arroyo Seco.

KC6ZLV: Are you thinking of something more like Madison Avenue through Carmichael/Citrus Heights/Fair Oaks, with frontage-road streets that parallel the main road?
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Old 03-17-2011, 03:02 AM
 
Location: Sacramento, Placerville
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I don't think anyone says "expressway" on the west coast--it's one of those regional words, like "turnpike", "pop" or "poke" that you don't hear on this side of the country. Generally you hear "freeway" or "highway," but they are used interchangeably. A few places are called "parkways," generally older scenic highways like the Arroyo Seco.

KC6ZLV: Are you thinking of something more like Madison Avenue through Carmichael/Citrus Heights/Fair Oaks, with frontage-road streets that parallel the main road?
I've heard "expressway" used quite often, although not much in the Sacramento area with the exception of the widening of Grant Line Rd into an expressway instead of building an actual freeway. SACOG has played around with the idea of upgrading a few roads to expressways because they are efficient and they don't have the impact of a freeway slicing established neighborhoods in half. San Francisco's Octavia Blvd is a good example. Herndon, Jenson and Clovis Avenues in Fresno, Capitol Expy in San Jose are a few more examples.

Madison and Greenback are fair examples, but I don't think there was an intent for them to be expressways, but yes, frontage roads for neighborhood traffic and possibly light rail away from the main traffic lanes, although I've only seen that done once, in Portland, I think. Alta Arden Expy was built with limited access so people could get to Watt Ave without the stop and go congestion on Arden Way.

I think the interchangeability between freeway and highway is the result of two-lane US and state highways being upgraded to freeways. I've never heard of an interstate being referred to as a highway.

This PDF defines roadways the same way I think of them:

http://www.sacog.org/mtp/2035/DraftM...pendix%20I.pdf
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Old 03-17-2011, 06:07 AM
 
Location: NYC
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A parkway for me is similar to an expressway but is generally well landscaped, a bit more winding, bans trucks, and has short entrance and exit ramps. Both expressways and parkways have no traffic lights and use entrance and exit ramps.

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Some parkways in the northeast do have lights, like the Taconic State Parkway in NY. But they are generally limited access. I'm pretty sure parkways were an idea of Robert Moses.
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Old 03-17-2011, 06:09 AM
 
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I think the interchangeability between freeway and highway is the result of two-lane US and state highways being upgraded to freeways. .
I think that's the reason. Most expressways in the east were designed as such and not upgraded U.S. roads.
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Old 03-17-2011, 08:59 AM
 
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A parkway for me is similar to an expressway but is generally well landscaped, a bit more winding, bans trucks, and has short entrance and exit ramps. Both expressways and parkways have no traffic lights and use entrance and exit ramps.

I didn't know freeways and expressways were distinct in the west coast.

many parkways have traffic lights - Fairfax County Parkway, for one.
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Old 03-20-2011, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Old 03-20-2011, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Liberal Coast
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I don't think anyone says "expressway" on the west coast--it's one of those regional words, like "turnpike", "pop" or "poke" that you don't hear on this side of the country. Generally you hear "freeway" or "highway," but they are used interchangeably. A few places are called "parkways," generally older scenic highways like the Arroyo Seco.

KC6ZLV: Are you thinking of something more like Madison Avenue through Carmichael/Citrus Heights/Fair Oaks, with frontage-road streets that parallel the main road?
Not really. A highway has traffic signals out here. A freeway has no traffic signals. In Southern California, all of our highways are really just city streets now. Most people down here hardly every use the word "highway."
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