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Old 04-09-2011, 12:11 PM
 
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"The failure of most American cities to connect their airports to downtown with trains (or to do so hopelessly after the fact) will go down as yet another of our great infrastructure blunders." - John Kasarda/Greg Lindsay, "Aerotropolis." While I suppose you can excuse Indianapolis, Columbus and Kansas City, which haven't even gotten around to building their first rail transit line, what about Buffalo, New Orleans, Pittsburg, Houston, Salt Lake City, Memphis, and many others that have rail transit lines but they don't reach the airport?
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Old 04-09-2011, 01:22 PM
 
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"The failure of most American cities to connect their airports to downtown with trains (or to do so hopelessly after the fact) will go down as yet another of our great infrastructure blunders."
Totally ridiculous nonsense! Rail to the airport is mostly underutilized. I live in San Francisco and could take Bart to the airport. However when going on a long trip I will be taking at least one or two heavy suitcases. How am I going to manage these on a crowded train? Why would I want to? I will just book a limo to the airport or have a friend drive me to the airport. Also it is much faster to drive unless there is rush hour traffic.
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Old 04-09-2011, 01:47 PM
 
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"The failure of most American cities to connect their airports to downtown with trains (or to do so hopelessly after the fact) will go down as yet another of our great infrastructure blunders." - John Kasarda/Greg Lindsay, "Aerotropolis." While I suppose you can excuse Indianapolis, Columbus and Kansas City, which haven't even gotten around to building their first rail transit line, what about Buffalo, New Orleans, Pittsburg, Houston, Salt Lake City, Memphis, and many others that have rail transit lines but they don't reach the airport?
Ah Chicago's didn't reach the airports till the 80ies(EL-O'Hare) and 90ies(El-Midway),(Metra-O'Hare). Honestly although the routes are packed with people and both routes were successful, I can not in good faith suggest using the el to get to and from O'Hare unless you pack very light.Lugging luggage on the el is not fun.Metra is not much better in the lugging luggage part but only runs like 11 trains a day on that route sometimes with as much as two hours between. Metra's only redeeming value is that at least it leaves from Union station.

Where they do help out is Airport workers and people who work in the area(hotel workers) and business travelers they also greatly help out the people living in the areas around the routes they serve and some burbs. The occasional tourist who needs to save money. But for most travelers I would suggest getting a cab or using the hotel shuttles.

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Old 04-09-2011, 02:46 PM
 
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We have bus systems to airports... total POS system... I tried it, took an hour and required trekking through mud... never tried it again... rail to airports is another stupid idea... how are you going to get to downtown? Fly? By the time you get to downtown via taxi (and pay yet another fare for the rail to the airport), you could of gotten a taxi to the airport already for cheaper... not only that dragging luggage around is not as fun as it sounds... mass transit by rail is good for only one thing... for people live and work/tour around it... other than that, its useless...
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Old 04-09-2011, 02:52 PM
 
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We have bus systems to airports... total POS system... I tried it, took an hour and required trekking through mud... never tried it again... rail to airports is another stupid idea... how are you going to get to downtown? Fly? By the time you get to downtown via taxi (and pay yet another fare for the rail to the airport), you could of gotten a taxi to the airport already for cheaper... not only that dragging luggage around is not as fun as it sounds... mass transit by rail is good for only one thing... for people live and work/tour around it... other than that, its useless...
He is talking trains to downtown. Chicago's Trains will take you down town and will beat rush hour traffic but the lugging lugugage up the stairs to the Orangle line or Down to the Subway sucks and Metra's frequnecy on that line leaves much to be desired if you are a traveler.
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Old 04-09-2011, 04:03 PM
 
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The rail connection in Atlanta works very well. I beleive ALL Marta rail stations have elevators to the platforms so you dont have to carry your luggage up the stairs. some airlines opperate a luggage check IN THE MARTA STATION. The station is also located right in the terminal and is very convenient.
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Old 04-09-2011, 04:55 PM
 
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I travel for work semi-regularly. It isn't always cost effective to taxi/cab. I did the math one day. Assuming driving to the airport, parking off-site, taking the shuttle it was the same or more time than taking the 45-50 minute train ride. I usually only have one bag and a carry on, but out train cars aren't designed for people with luggage. I think it can work with the right seat layout.
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Old 04-10-2011, 12:07 PM
 
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Totally ridiculous nonsense! Rail to the airport is mostly underutilized. I live in San Francisco and could take Bart to the airport. However when going on a long trip I will be taking at least one or two heavy suitcases. How am I going to manage these on a crowded train? Why would I want to? I will just book a limo to the airport or have a friend drive me to the airport. Also it is much faster to drive unless there is rush hour traffic.
My wife and I used Bart to go into downtown San Fran from the airport (and we had two large bags and two smaller bags to lug). We found it to be cost-effective, quick and enjoyable. I would have hated to take a $50 cab ride from the airport (like I had to in Denver), and I don't know anyone in San Fran to get a ride from.
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Old 04-10-2011, 12:10 PM
 
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I actually find a connection to the airport to be a HUGE benefit. I travel quite a bit and I know how expensive it can be to get a cab, rent a car or slow it can be to take a bus (depending on the city). Denver is the absolute worst that I can think of. What a long drive, and it was very expensive. They have bus service too, but it's significantly slower and really sucks during rush hour.

I also much prefer to live in a city with a good rail connection, because it's quicker, cheaper and easier than driving (or calling a cab), and I don't have to pay for parking while I'm out of town (which can be EXPENSIVE)
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Old 04-10-2011, 01:48 PM
 
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Rail transit between cities seems like a higher priority to me: that way, you don't have to take another train downtown, you just end up downtown!
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