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Old 10-03-2011, 10:14 AM
 
Location: NC
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I don't want to live in an 80% white neighbourhood
or an 80% black
or an 80% pacific islander

diverse neighbourhoods>>>
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Old 10-03-2011, 12:32 PM
 
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no theres nothing inherently wrong with homogeneous neighborhoods, tho I find diverse, upper class neighborhoods the bestest.
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Old 10-03-2011, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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You can't argue with STATISTICS. "diverse" neighborhoods have higher crime rates. I challenge any politically correct person to prove otherwise.

20yrsinBranson
I live in a diverse neighborhood in Oakland, CA. It is a little less diverse than my cities demographics.

My census tract:
55% White
16% Black
13% Asian
9% Latino

2 of the neighboring ones:
34% White
38% Black
10% Latino
12% Asian

44% White
27% Black
12% Latino
11% Asian

It is one of the lower crime parts of town and generally a well-liked area of town with lots of amenities.

In fact, if you just stick with the media's portrayal of Oakland, you'd think the whole city is sketchy and the only places with low crime rates are the ones with mostly white people. In reality, the crime in the city of Oakland is concentrated in the poorer areas. About 75% of all crime happens in a few high risk areas. Most areas all over the city are really diverse, with some exceptions. But you will find affluent areas with a white majority, and a black majority. But most areas are very mixed -- poor, middle class or affluent.

Here is a map from the NYT project of the area in question. As you can see, it is pretty mixed. And dense.


Here is the income mix for the same area (mostly couples, singles, young families in the area for reference). This is a mostly middle income area of town, but there are also lower income singles and seniors generally.

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Old 10-03-2011, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Centre Wellington, ON
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I don't want to live in an 80% white neighbourhood
or an 80% black
or an 80% pacific islander

diverse neighbourhoods>>>
I don't think race matters as much as culture though. If you have a neighbourhood that is dominated by whites, but has 15% Italians, 12% Israeli, 10% Russians, 9% Greeks, 8% Serbs, 7% Portuguese, 6% Finnish, 5% German, 4% Polish, 3% French, 3% Hungarian, 3% English, 3% Irish, 3% Romanians, 2% Spanish, 2% Argentines and only 5% non-whites... it would certainly satisfy my need for diversity (note that looking at nationalities is still a simplification of things). And while I don't consider it a single race, what people call "Asians" are even imo more culturally diverse than whites. I'm not sure about the other races but they're obviously not going to be totally homogeneous. You can have political diversity, diversity of languages, cuisine, traditions, religion, etc. The advantage is that you'll discover all sorts of new things by getting to know your neighbours, race is irrelevant.
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Old 10-04-2011, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Alabama
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Who cares about "diversity"? Diversity only leads to trouble and even more racism.
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Old 10-04-2011, 04:29 PM
 
Location: In the clouds
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Who cares about "diversity"? Diversity only leads to trouble and even more racism.
lol omg that's not true!
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Old 10-05-2011, 03:07 PM
 
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Who cares about "diversity"? Diversity only leads to trouble and even more racism.
That makes zero sense. The more you become acclimated to other cultures and people, the easier it becomes to accept people.
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Old 10-07-2011, 09:57 AM
 
Location: MO->MI->CA->TX->MA
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Plenty of diverse neighborhoods in NYC that have relatively low crime rates, at least as low as mostly white neighborhoods.

San Jose and much of the Bay Area is very diverse and mostly has low crime rates.
And I'm a bit surprised when I (or anyone else) ask about where to live, the vast majority of suggestions assume I'm looking for homogenous white neighborhoods.
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Old 10-07-2011, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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And I'm a bit surprised when I (or anyone else) ask about where to live, the vast majority of suggestions assume I'm looking for homogenous white neighborhoods.
So true! I like to call it a function of white privilege (not a political statement here). It is generally assumed that "white" is normal, and everyone posting anything must be "white" unless they have explicitly said they aren't so. If you are looking for something, it must be what "white" people want or generally choose.
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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Here is the income mix for the same area (mostly couples, singles, young families in the area for reference). This is a mostly middle income area of town, but there are also lower income singles and seniors generally.
Wow. Those are some stark income divides! Income divide look stronger than the racial divide. Looks like Broadway is a big separation between a relatively improvished neighborhood and a middle-class one (especially east of I-580) while a bit further Northeast is a low density that looks very wealthy (Piedmont?)
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